selenа
I'm talking about these graters and the price is humane.
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Crown
Yuri K,
Here are the ones on ....
Oh, come on, be scared! :-) I chop all the vegetables on it without problems, it is difficult only cubes from raw chop beets, but boiled ones are already quite normal. There is nothing to say about carrots with onions and cabbage with potatoes, all vegetables are perfectly chopped.
Yuri K
Girls, can this replica be considered an alternative? Why is the price not directly real, although I understand that this is not Berner, of course, but ripped off from him?
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Masha Ivanova
selenа, Nadia! Thank you so much! They lie at my house, big and small. It's probably two years already. I can't try everything. I also bought it in the same joint venture. The name flew out of my head at that moment. when you wrote about it.
dopleta
Quote: Yuri K
Here are the ones on ....
And I would like to draw your attention to the fact that many years ago, there were dozens of us, on the wave of excitement, who bought these TNS, but rave reviews about it in different topics now and then appear only from one user, who has no other tracks and does not have to compare can not with anything.
selenа
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Why not try for such money
Yuri K
Quote: selenа
Why not try for such money
Delivery is the same amount if by Mail. Probably I'll try, while I haven't felt Berner's qualities with my own hands.
Igrig
Quote: Yuri K
Girls, can this replica be considered an alternative?
Quote: selenа
Why not try for such money
We have Burner, probably since 1990 (already the third set). We use it super intensively !!!
A couple of years ago I decided to buy a holder, not a Berner one, but something like the one according to your links.
The music did not play for long ... Or rather, it did not play at all!
This fruit holder is 100 times more inconvenient, although it cost 3 times cheaper. Well, it's just not possible to use it when using Burner!
I'm not talking about the Neburner shredder itself.
It seems that the holder is a primitive thing, but no!
Therefore, put your doubts aside, buy a Burner, the simplest model.
There is an Alligator type crusher, I do not see an advantage over Burner, it is easier to chop than to crush, another question if 7x7 mm sticks for some reason do not suit!
Helen
Quote: CroNa
compact universal grater TNS-3000, look, maybe you will like it.
Quote: dopleta
By the way, about TNS. Yuri, it is quite possible that it will suit you.

I think too !!!
Quote: dopleta
but rave reviews about her in different topics now and then appear only from one user, who has no other users and cannot compare with anything

I have something to compare with ... Berner is a classic since 1993, all the years I was crazy about him and now I will not give up, although I already have Profi, BUT having bought TNS3000, I do not get Berner AT ALL (except when tongues from eggplant are needed and zucchini is on Brener). It hangs on my rail, always at hand ... slices of any thickness ... three kinds of straw ... by the way, cabbage is only on it, even in cabbage soup, even in salting ...

Quote: dopleta
And the transverse ones are completely stupid, so you, as a man, may not be difficult to cope with it. I would not advise women.
They, not completely stupid, cut well, in Berner, of course, they are very sharp and fixed better ... it is not difficult for me in a shredder on this grater, and it is up to you to decide and choose, Yuri
And yet, I bought more than one such grater ... I advised my friends, neighbors ... two, of which I was delighted, and one did not make friends (she is armless, not a mistress)

Quote: Yuri K

Girls, can this replica be considered an alternative? Why is the price not directly real, although I understand that this is not Berner, of course, but ripped off from him?
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In no case, DO NOT BUY, such a G ..... !!!!
Ketsal
Yuri K, I also bought a replica of Berger. I threw it out. Last year, the set of the trend on wb was for 2 with a tail, so there are both a pot and 2 plastic graters. Yes, white from carrots turns yellow. But I have to rub her and not show off. Berger's parents since 1996. The knives are already dull. I make more effort than mine
Yuri K
Helen, Thank you!
Quote: Ketsal
Last year, the set of the trend on wb was for 2 with a tail, so there are both a pot and 2 plastic graters.
Nuuu ... this is a unique case, apparently. Okay, this is not a light bulb in the hallway, you can wait! I was coping all this time without ... And I really ask everyone, if suddenly ... then immediately "Hey-gay!" Good?
Tashenka
Berner has been with me ever since he arrived in Russia. Until more compact shredders appeared, I used it constantly. TNS, Giant, small Status (which very quickly ceased to keep the cutting thickness) and a tiny "pyramid" grater, which I bought for my grandson to play, but I use it myself. I disagree that TNS has dull knives. Right Helen, wrote that she is not friends only with raw beets. So "think for yourself, decide for yourself ..."
Helen
Quote: Tashenka
Helen, wrote that she is not friends with raw beets only. So "think for yourself, decide for yourself ..."
I agree, realizing how tough she is ... I never rubbed her on TNS
dopleta
Well, it means that someone was lucky, but eight or ten members of the forum who left negative reviews about her and got rid of her - no. Let's hope that you, Yuri, will be lucky too!




Quote: Tashenka
I disagree that TNS has dull knives.
Natasha, please look at the transverse retractable plates. Are they imprisoned with you? I, like many, cannot even call them knives - not a trace of sharpening! I can press my finger from above without harm to my health. But there are no complaints about the main flat knife, which I am writing about: perfect for cabbage! If you and Helen have a sharpener, then many of us have a marriage.
Yuri K
Quote: dopleta
Let's hope that you, Yuri, will be lucky too!
I'll probably wait, I need to mature. All the same, I lean towards Berner. But perhaps only for the classic. The rest for the price - the gut protests.
Tashenka
Quote: dopleta
I can press my finger with force from above without harm to health

No, Larissa, I will not risk it. I will take pity on my fingers. But I chop onions, carrots, cucumbers, etc. into pieces of any width. No problem.
Igrig
Quote: dopleta
please look at the transverse retractable plates
I don't have TNS, so I have no right to speak about the taste of oysters with 100% certainty, but ...
1. I watched the video about TNS - I can't call the transverse plates stupid (for this I would have to at least sharpen them first), they just were never sharpened with all the ensuing consequences! Objectively, it will be harder to chop vegetables!
2. About beets: look at the tilt angle of the TNS knife! The angle of inclination is approximately 75-80 degrees! Berner has a knives tilt of about 30 degrees! That is much less, about 2.5 times. I do not want to say that it is 2.5 times easier to cut on the Berner, but what will be easier - do not go to a fortune-teller!
Well, something like that, but I admit, I won't buy TNS for live comparison!
Crown
Tilt angle ...
... but what will be easier - don't go to the fortuneteller!

Igrig, what is the connection (law, formula)?
dopleta
I will not return to its discussion of several years ago, where not advertising, but our photos with half-cut vegetables were shown. It does not cut through solid roots with thin strips, this is a fact. And the efforts need to be made in comparison with Burner incredible.
cleose
Girls, I also have TNS and I'm happy with it. although it’s true, I didn’t have Berner, but I tried to rub on Berner with relatives, I didn’t like it. you have to work very carefully with it, and great for me. In the mall, I still tried to buy it, did several approaches, but because of its large size, I didn't buy it.As a result, I took TNS and is happy, always at hand, compact, I use it all the time.
dopleta
Look, does it seem to no one but me that the complaints about Berner's sharpness say exactly the opposite - about the high quality of his knives? And the risk of cutting yourself, of course, exists: the knives are sharp. But here, as they say, it all depends on the qualifications of the culinary specialist.
Ekaterina2
I am not overjoyed with my Berner. I bought Kevlar gloves on Ali and I'm happy. I do not use the holder. I never cut it.
Yuri K
Quote: dopleta
Look, does it seem to no one but me that the complaints about Berner's sharpness say exactly the opposite - about the high quality of his knives?
It seems to me! I generally fall into a stupor from blunt knives, I sharpen them myself, though with an Alisha sharpener, but with pebbles with different grit.
Igrig
Quote: Yuri K
I generally fall into a stupor from dull knives, I sharpen them myself
"You want songs, I have them!" (FROM)
Rather, you yourself said everything!
Do you still need any arguments ???
Yuri K
Quote: Igrig
Do you still need any arguments ???
What is that ??? Well, yes, I will, but I have simple knives, despicably soft metal. And on the graters-shredders - I'm still ripening
Tashenka
Girls, let's live together !!! Berner is good! I even damaged my tendon when I was mastering it. And the knives are still as sharp as on the first day. And TNS is good in its own way. And I love the Giant. And my friend, buying everything for the company with me, uses a simple hexagon and is happy! Everyone chooses "friends" for themselves.
dopleta
Quote: Tashenka
TNS is good in its own way
I do not argue, and I still admit that, perhaps, they forgot to imprison some party, so many of us suffered.
Ukka
Quote: Tashenka
Berner is good! I even damaged my tendon when I was mastering it.
That's just why I will never buy a Berner. Having arthritis in my joints, I don't know how my joint will play at one time or another. There is a cheap analogue, not even an analogue, but a grater with replaceable blades, this is mine. Dull, buy the same. Shredded cabbage or with a knife or a recently purchased bazaar wooden shredder. Shinkuyu is very thin, I like it this way. This is a culinary qualification. For someone to rub large volumes, I will buy an electric grater. And I will chop the cabbage with a sharp knife.
And my opinion has a right to exist.
Pysy. She was holding both a Berner grater and a holder. I am not comfortable and dangerous.
dopleta
Quote: Ukka
Having arthritis in the joints
And I have it. Therefore, I cannot use an alligator. And on graters like "mandolin" the wrist joint is not involved in the work: the hand (with the fruit holder) is motionless relative to the forearm, only the elbow works.
Ukka
dopleta, Larissa, I will not argue. I'm not writing about Alligators, I haven't even seen them alive. To me it is not convenient to use Berner. A You it is convenient to use Berner. We are all different.
Ketsal
Yuri K, for twenty years Berner in the family. Mom didn't make friends with him. A couple of times I cut myself very badly and now everything ... we are all different. Someone threw out the stove and everything is in the multicooker. And I am completely indifferent to the word. Previously, it was possible to do a test drive with Berner in their branded departments. Maybe it's still left?
Irgata
Quote: Yuri K
And so, without feeling with my own hands, I probably won't take it from scratch, everything in the comments is too contradictory.
Quote: Yuri K
and they sent me an old one for testing
For every expensive unit there is a cheap and very cheap analogue. You can always buy and try - and not depend on someone else's opinion and someone else's failed device.

Who wants to sell or buy, donate, accept as a gift - there are Flea market themes. There your wish will be more noticeable))

Yuri K
Quote: Irgata
Who wants to sell or buy, donate, accept as a gift - there are Flea market themes. There your wish will be more noticeable))
Come on, I wrote more to relieve stress in the subject. Flea market will do without me
Irgata
Quote: Yuri K
The flea market can do without me
why? if a new one is dear to you, then a used one will help, otherwise why then all these questions of yours - where and what to buy high-quality and cheaper?

🔗 this beauty, orange, appeared in my mid-90s and worked in tandem with an alligator for several years. And there was a vegetable garden and the family was assembled, and cabbage and other vegetables and fruits for and for the whole year were harvested and processed in bags. Then for me this cutter + alligator was expensive, but I bought it anyway, in installments, then there were no online stores, they just bought from us) and never regretted it. Then, about 6 years ago, Berner Prima appeared - I bought it because of its larger size and, most importantly, there is a comfortable handle.
The same Classic Burner in the minimum configuration is not expensive, given that it will serve for many years. Yes, there are also promotions at OZON all the time.
Last year I bought a friend of the Classics for 2400, without boxing.
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Yuri K
Quote: Irgata
Why then all these questions of yours - where and what to buy high-quality and cheaper?
Yes, I looked closely, is it really incomprehensible? It is more difficult for me to make a decision on the kitchen "female tricks", there are always doubts - is it necessary, before that I lived somehow without it?
Quote: Irgata
Yes, there are also promotions at OZON all the time.
It is probably necessary to monitor, I do not like Ozone, I rarely look there. I think I can take on Alik, albeit not such a replica quality, but at least I understand - do I need to
Irgata
Quote: Yuri K
I do not like ozone, I rarely look there.
very in vain.

If you need to "try" - look in Galamart, if you have one in your city, it is cheap and will last for a year of sharpness of the blades, but at least you will find out - you need it in a better performance, or the knives will come off the board. 🔗
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Yuri K
Irgata, about!!! Thanks for the tip! Is "Super Slicer" a replica of the Alligator? That's it, I'll be there today!
Irgata
But my husband for all these years, when shredding cabbage and cutting carrots, when he helped me in the fall, never once wanted to use anything except a sharp knife and a simple 4-sided vegetable grater and a board.
It was not convenient for him with all sorts of German bells and whistles))
I didn't even want to use a safe and easy-to-use alligator)
Yuri K
Quote: Irgata
But my husband for all these years, when shredding cabbage and cutting carrots, when he helped me in the fall, never once wanted to use anything
Well, I kind of ... use knives. Yes, with a fool I wanted to have beautiful potatoes in soups, and cabbage - I always get different caliber ... I also like to make carrots in Korean
I don’t understand from the picture only - will this set of Vettava potatoes shred with plates?
Ukka
Irgata, in fact, a good sharp cabbage shredder is irreplaceable !!!
Irgata
Yuri K, well .. by and large, all these burners, alligators, etc. - of course, not toys and not useless objects in the house.
But, if there are no large one-time processing of vegetables and fruits, then it is wonderful without them. And the potatoes in the soup still cannot be calibrated evenly - they are round))
Although - I have a friend - she chooses potato bars after the alligator for the soup - when the guests are even, and the non-calibration goes into the filling in the pies.
So you can))
Yuri K
Quote: Irgata
But the potatoes in the soup still can't be calibrated evenly - they are round))
of course I meant the thickness of the slices. And for Korean carrots, sizing is relevant. Let's see what and how
Irgata
Quote: Ukka
a good sharp knife for shredding cabbage is irreplaceable !!!
Yes, many people do that, but to me - nope, for me to chick with a knife is flour, it doesn't work smoothly and quickly. And not fast, I don't need it either. This is if you chik something a lot at once.
And on a soup now, when in one person - a knife is quite good.
Ukka
I have such a grater, only in white
Vegetable cutter, 6 stainless knives The Rescuer
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This year, I chopped 50 kg of carrots, beets into small pieces on a nozzle for Korean carrots. On a slice there are 20 kg of onions. I have it about 4 years old. In my youth, and the slice insert was suitable for cabbage, now it is dull. But I cut cheese and boiled sausage on this insert.
That's what attracts me in Berner is the waffle grater. But the price ...




Quote: Irgata

Yes, many people do that, but to me - nope, for me to chick with a knife is flour, it doesn't work smoothly and quickly. And not fast, I don't need it either. This is if you chik something a lot at once.
And on a soup now, when in one person - a knife is quite good.
I chop with a knife quickly, thinly and evenly. But you are right, any opinion has a place to be.
Irgata
Quote: Yuri K
sizing is relevant for Korean carrots.
there is no better and more reliable Berner 🔗 or a cheaper option without a handle = along the carrot "for Koreans", across - for the soup))
And for even potatoes 🔗

What are you, Yuri, interesting - hanging out on the forum and still without bells and whistles, amazing stamina
Good luck in choosing your needs and usefulness
Yuri K
Quote: Irgata
What are you, Yuri, interesting - you hang out on the forum and still have no bells and whistles, amazing stamina
The forum is huge! I recently just went for a walk on topics More and more in the Tea topic, I recently "hit" the bakery, well, now it's time to look somewhere else! Pancake looked




Quote: Irgata
Good luck in choosing your needs and usefulness
Thank you!
Tashenka
Girls (well, boys, of course), if it's not difficult, post a link where you can buy Kevlar gloves. I made friends with my shredders, I no longer get hurt. But I have a "scary beast" - a Korean carrot shredder. Ugly, homemade, bought in a family of Russianized Koreans, which is engaged in the preparation and sale of these carrots. Here, without cuts, it is impossible to work with her, even with two cotton gloves and a rubber top. Therefore, for a couple of years now, it has been idle, and cheap, small, wooden shredded carrots for this salad were also bought many years ago from the hands of Belarusians. (But Bernerovskaya did not suit me at all for this purpose ...)
Yuri K
Found an option Berner Trend, for Total: 1982.00 with delivery. Is this option suitable for features / price? Not used.
Vegetable graters and shredders, kevlar gloves
Irgata
Quote: Yuri K
Total: 1,982.00 with delivery
and do not hesitate !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

anything better than 700 r for unknown what in galamart


Yuri K
Quote: Irgata
and do not hesitate !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Done! Avito-delivery ordered, phoned the seller, says they did not even print - there was a gift. But he asked: I am the one and the other, I have reserved a guy from some girl friend, but pulls rubber And then I arrived in time, from another city

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