Angelina29
Quote: Chamomile1

If you are from Russia, I can recommend Boman. The software is excellent, very budgetary. In the spring we bought it for 3000 rubles. But, with him one caveat, until they found where to buy brushes. Since we use it together with my sister for two houses, one round brush for half a year has already spread all over, fluffed up. We haven’t solved this problem yet, but to be honest, we didn’t really solve it. And so everything is fine. His steam is dry, does not pour much water and is generally quite comfortable. It is possible that before you buy, call online stores and repair shops, maybe someone is carrying components.
Here I need a brush right away (for the sofa), because this is the first thing I need. I would like to have everything in the kit right away. But I will consider, thanks for the recommendation
argo
Quote: Angelina29

Here I need a brush right away (for the sofa), because this is the first thing I need. I would like to have everything in the kit right away. But I will consider, thanks for the recommendation
Yes, take a kercher .. since you are in St. Petersburg .. and shops and service are all close by .. the girls that bought it .. there were no problems with it .. everyone is happy ..
argo
Quote: Argo

here .. review with photos



and here about the mold down there the girls answered one unhappy lady ..


oh forgot .. it's about körcher 1020 ..

Well, you must .. but why are my links not working .. I copied it from some reviewer ...
Angelina29
Quote: Alyonka212

Angelina29, Kromax 801 (802, 803) is also from the budget. (I would also like Karcher, but ....) I bought it for 3 with something (prices are dancing). It also has the ability to adjust the pressure and, accordingly, the steam humidity.
Thank you, it seems like the reviews are the last normal, please tell me, are my software links good?
Angelina29
Quote: Argo

Yes, take a kercher .. since you are in St. Petersburg .. and shops and service are all close by .. the girls that bought it .. there were no problems with it .. everyone is happy ..
thanks, so I think about him too
Scops owl
Quote: Argo

Well, you must .. but why are my links not working .. I copied it from some reviewer ...
Lar, and mine too Come on, let's get some information Who is looking for, he will find
Chamomile
Quote: Angelina29

Here I need a brush right away (for the sofa), because this is the first thing I need. I would like to have everything in the kit right away. But I will consider, thanks for the recommendation
Boman has all the necessary brushes. Including a window brush. The only thing is that we have not yet found where to buy brushes to replace the worn out one. But they were not looking very actively yet.
Angelina29
Quote: Chamomile1

Boman has all the necessary brushes. Including a window brush. The only thing is that we have not yet found where to buy brushes to replace the worn out one. But they were not looking very actively yet.
thanks, while I look at the reviews again.
Angelina29
And also tell me please, the optimal steam temperature, what should be the bar, what is it, how much should it be?
Angelina29
I found these, probably the Karcher is rather weak for the price that I want. Please see the description and help me figure out what I need from these. Let me remind you again why: dogs at home (often do their own things at home), you need to remove the smell and disinfection, naturally, cats (the sofa is covered in wool, you can collect wool on socks in 2 weeks) That's why I want to buy software. Everything else can and will be washed with them, but it is not critical if it does not wash something, the main thing is the smell and wool and windows

This is what the steamer-steam cleaner saw

Clatronic DR 3280
Kromax ODYSSEY Q-803 (8 bar!)
Kromax ODYSSEY Q-502
Mar_k
Tell me, pliz, what is better: high pressure (and low temperature (98 C) or low pressure (2.5) and high temperature (138 C)!
lana19
The cleaning properties of the steam cleaner are also influenced by the temperature and steam pressure. According to the laws of physics, these two parameters are interrelated. So, steam heated to a temperature of 140 ° C is supplied under a pressure of 3.5 atm, and at a steam temperature of 200 ° C the pressure will already be 15 atm.
Mar_k
Quote: lana19

The cleaning properties of the steam cleaner are also influenced by the temperature and steam pressure. According to the laws of physics, these two parameters are interrelated. So, steam heated to a temperature of 140 ° C is supplied under a pressure of 3.5 atm, and at a steam temperature of 200 ° C the pressure will already be 15 atm.
And how does all this affect the quality of work? If the temperature is high and the atmosphere is small, it will be better to clean than the low temperature and the atmosphere is high! Or is the temperature high only important for steaming things? I mainly need it for cleaning the apartment (ceilings, floors, walls ... and wooden doors and kitchen furniture), well, steam down jackets after vacuum bags!
I don’t know what to do!
Stafa
Marin, take a karcher and don’t worry about mosch, he will cope with all the tasks.
Mar_k
Quote: Stafa

Marin, take a karcher and don’t worry about mosch, he will cope with all the tasks.
Thank you! I'll think!
lana19
The first technical characteristic that you should pay attention to is power. For hand-held devices, it can be in the range from 700 to 1600 W, for floor-standing devices from 1300 to 2300 W. The higher the power rating, the faster steam will be generated and the better the surface will be cleaned.

We recommend taking a closer look at devices with a power of 1000 watts or more.

Another important indicator is the water heating time (from 15 seconds to 10 minutes). How quickly the water will heat up depends entirely on the power of the device and the volume of the steam boiler. In order to speed up this process a little, you can fill in heated water. And if you use hot boiled water, it will be great. Then the water will turn into steam faster and there will be fewer problems with scale.
When choosing a steam cleaner, it is important to consider how the heating is done. He can be:

* Direct flow (water heats up as it comes out)
* With the generation of steam in the boiler (water turns into steam that is generated in the boiler

The second option is preferable, since in this case the steam temperature and the power of the jet will be higher.


The next technical characteristic that is of great importance when choosing a steam cleaner for the home is steam pressure. This indicator can be in the range from 2 to 6 bar. The technical characteristics of the device always indicate maximum pressure inside the boiler, not the pressure of the leaving steam.

The outlet steam pressure is greatly influenced by the nozzle used and the length of the steam cleaner hose. Therefore, the pressure inside the boiler is quite different from the steam pressure outside.
Also of great importance, as mentioned above, is the length of the steam cleaner hose. This indicator is especially important for low-power devices. If the device is low-power, and the hose is long, then the steam can cool down very much, leaving the hose. Up to the point that water droplets will appear, which not only interfere with the cleaning process, but also can damage the surface.
The difference between household, semi-professional and professional software is the temperature of heating the water in the tank. If the household has 140, then the professional has 200 and above (more heat - stronger and faster cleans)
love-apple
But with such data, will it be good to clean?
Product description
Colour:
Silver
Pressure:
4 bar
Information:
Steam pressure control on the handle. Overheat protection.
Power:
1500 watts
Weight:
5 Kg
Boiler volume:
1.5 l
Nozzles:
floor brush, round brushes, steam nozzle, window and glass cleaning nozzle, jet nozzle (for wallpaper, car).
Alexa ha
Marina is not a universal device 2 in 1 or 3 in 1. As a rule, it is better to take either a steam cleaner or a steamer.But I have verified that it is better to steam the curtains by weight when wet. This is for Karcher 1020.
Initially, when there was a question of choosing between Karcher 1020 and Clatronic DR 3280. The price of the clathronic naturally tempted, but given their service and not the ability to buy additional. nozzles did not please me.
Karcher still has a 2-year warranty and service centers in many large cities and the ability to buy the nozzles that you need. And as always, you have to pay for the quality.
Do not think I am not putting pressure on you in any way. I really want you to make the right choice and not regret the money spent.
Good luck and the right choice!
Alexa ha
Larissa data is not bad. Magnificent. But you also need to know the manufacturer, the warranty period and the availability of a service center nearby with the ability to purchase consumables. Better yet, look for reviews of the product you like.
love-apple
I just forgot to write the name - CLATRONIC DR 3280 steam cleaner
I have already read that Karcher is better, but twice as expensive. I won't buy it in the near future, because I need a lot. And you want cleanliness
Alexa ha
Then take a clathronic and you will have happiness and a clean apartment / house.
lana19
love-apple! Larissa! Here in the subject the girls wrote that Klatronic had a very unsuccessful pistol. There have been cases of rubbing corn on the finger. And the ability to purchase attachments and the availability of the necessary parts in service centers are also very important indicators. (I repeat Alla)
I've recently decided to look at the attachments for cheap steam cleaners, in order to somehow adapt them to Karcher. I searched the Internet - and never found it on sale! I also read on other forums that the most popular nozzle (small round) on cheap software quickly turns into a spider. What I can not say about this nozzle from Karcher.
Now about the availability of spare parts in service centers. For example --- my potato peeler Saturn took off very quickly. Was under warranty. There was no such spare part in the service center. The store returned the money. What if the warranty is over? It turns out that there are no spare parts --- we buy a new one! BEFORE I BUY low-budget software, I would call the service center recommended by the manufacturer and find out everything. This does not apply to Karcher.
In no case do I want to say anything bad about other software besides Karcher and I do not campaign for him. Everyone makes their own choice according to their material capabilities... I just draw your attention to important, in my opinion, details. At first, I also wanted to buy a very powerful steam cleaner. But the price. And then I read everything about them. And I came to this conclusion
Yes - powerful software (professional and semi-professional) copes with the task faster and better. But if you have the courage to clean thoroughly heavily soiled, neglected surfaces with the help of special detergents and ordinary (not semi-professional) software, then later, newly acquired contaminants, with their timely cleansing, are very easily and quickly removed without the use of chemical. funds. It's like burnt food in a saucepan. If you do not immediately soak in water, then it will not be very easy to clean it off. If I do something grease-splashing in the oven. I try to go straight through the software until the fat turns to stone.
And yet - how does a steam cleaner differ from a garment steamer In a steam cleaner, steam moisture is higher. This is done in order to soften the contaminated surface and then blow away the contamination. There are steam cleaners with adjustable steam humidity. They are even capable of releasing a stream of water. And as for clothes, these are steam generators. They produce, so to speak, dry steam. (Minimum humidity when served)
yara
Quote: love-apple

But with such data, will it be good to clean?
Silver
What about the price
love-apple
I have no old pollution. The house is after renovation, everything is cleaned regularly. But I want to use less chemistry and physical strength. and I do not understand, is it very powerful? Can I relax? I just want a steam cleaner

Quote: yara

What about the price
Is 600 UAH expensive?
yara
Quote: love-apple

Is 600 UAH expensive?
I guess I found something wrong
lana19
love-apple! Larissa! Take a look at 126 pages. There JelenaM shares his impressions of this model. Do not weaker!
love-apple
lana19 read. Reviews are mixed. And in stores too. I'll probably think about it
irman
I also want Kercher 1020, I’ll dig a little more and I’ll be happy.
Alexa ha
Irina, you are on the right track. LIKE me once.
irman
Quote: Alexa-ha

Irina, you are on the right track. LIKE me once.
gala10
Quote: Alexa-ha

Irina, you are on the right track. LIKE me once.
And I! Dovooolnaya !!!!
lana19
And here are my thoughts on high power steam cleaners. (above 1800). I read that manufacturers in such cases warn --- the surface to be cleaned may suffer (change color, texture) Of course --- the maximum steam temperature of the software is only in full contact with the surface to be cleaned. The further we move the nozzle, the more the steam temperature decreases. But you want to rub it! And rub so as not to spoil.
My Karcher has a capacity of 1500. The facades in the kitchen are painted glossy. When washing with steam, nothing happened to them! I washed the refrigerator without taking out all the internal paraphernalia. Refrigerators don't like very high temperatures. Calm about the rubber gaskets on the windows. For an acrylic bathtub. For tile joints.
So it's not always that more powerful is better.
I also saw such a model Karcher SC 3.000. Power -1800. Pressure-3.5 A powerful nozzle was added - a narrow red tube and a screed for windows. Price slightly more than 1020. In white
Z. Y. I have not tried or seen very powerful software work. Conclusions made only on the basis of what I read from the Internet. They are not categorical. If there are owners of VERY powerful software on the forum and they are happy and everything is in order with the cleaned surfaces - I ask you to blame the Internet for everything!
Alenka212
Maybe my opinion will help someone.
Generally speaking, I am a supporter of acquiring good brand technology. I also wanted to buy Karcher. But due to material reasons (in a short period of time, not a cheap pressure cooker and a multicooker, a Bosch dishwasher, an upright vacuum cleaner, and all this during the completion of the house were bought), I was able to carve out money only for the budget Kromakh 801. There are many nozzles. On the officer. Kromax's website, for example, has information. that you can buy a spare set of nozzles from them. It is 2 in 1, since due to the possibility of adjusting the pressure, it works both as a steamer and as a steam cleaner. But the temperature is about 98 degrees declared. I did not compare with Karcher. As a steam cleaner, it fully copes with its functions. She washed the floor, windows, cleaned the sofa and carpet, and also carried out the usual declared work on the kitchen and bathroom. Everything is like everyone else. The first time the priest was plastic, then it was normal. Bends slightly if you connect three extension cords for floor washing or carpet cleaning. But when connecting the two, no problem. The gun is not small. but does not get warm during long work. Steam goes on even when the green light is off (that is, during its generation). The floor brush (without a rag) is good at picking up cat fluff from the carpet.
When steaming clothes (I wrote about this before), you can steam more slowly with low pressure, there will be almost dry steam and, accordingly, dry clothes, it is possible with more, faster, but then it will be damp. For comparison, I bought a clean steamer, a powerful 1500 W steam brush. The result with Kromax on a small pair is comparable.
It is very convenient (if there is a place) to stick an extension cord with a holder into a steam generator, and hang a pistol on it during cleaning (as a use as a steam generator). The method was invented by Maria (Wasp). I'm just in awe of this. Very comfortably.
But the choice and sympathy for this or that device is determined only own tasks and emotions.
The girls are delighted with the steam brushes, but I could not, given two steamers, refuse the iron. With ruffles, rhinestones, gathers, knitwear and down jackets, steamers cope with a bang.But it is faster for me to iron out large, even surfaces with an iron (with steam). And I like the quality of ironing better. Since I am one of the few people who prefer ironed bed linen and ironed T-shirts and trousers, I will still purchase a steam station.
In general, if possible, dig up and buy Karcher. If not, there are decent substitutes.
Alexa ha
Quote: lana19

The facades in the kitchen are glossy painted. When washing with steam, nothing happened to them!
Svetlana, can I have a photo of your facades? Mine, after 2-5 seconds of cleaning, peeled off (MDF or something else) and now do not fit snugly to the base.
lana19
Quote: Alexa-ha

Svetlana, can I have a photo of your facades?
Alla! These facades are painted glossy MDF. Everything is reflected in them. You can even see the reflection of the chandelier. Steam cleaner (steam generator) ... And this is the state of the hood after cleaning by Karcher. She is 8 years old. Steam cleaner (steam generator) Of course, the first time I washed it with a fat-dissolving agent. Now I only go by ferry once a week. I cook on the stove. And my beloved Brandik, I have it relatively not long ago, only for meat and fish.
And such facades as yours, I had before. I think so. Because over time, they also moved away from the base in some places on those doors that were closer to the oven. They are glued. And under the influence of hot steam the glue "broke" (your case) My old kitchen moved to my parents and everything is fine. Nothing further peeled off. And you can only understand that the facade is unsticked when you press it with your hand.
Alexa ha
Svetlana described everything correctly about her former facades, it is the same with me now. Your kitchen is very beautiful and juicy. My favorite color is light green. And the hood seems to be new and you can't say at all that it is so many years old. Karcher is smart, she copes well with fat.
Angelina29
Quote: lana19

Alla! These facades are painted glossy MDF.
Do you have a kitchen from Borovichi? I want a light green and glossy kitchen instead of blue from ikea.
lana19
Angelina29 .. A question for me? My cuisine is a local Odessa bottling.
Angelina29
Lana, the question was, of course, I didn't look where you are from
Angelina29
Girls, I've just tried out the clathronic 3280, before that I read the instructions, but somehow I didn't quite understand. I poured in warm water, at first 2 lights came on, after a minute one went out, one orange remained and I started to soar, did I do everything correctly or did I not wait for full heating?
So far, I can’t say anything about my impressions, I tried a chair, a sofa and a scratching post, it looked like it became better, as it had freshened up or something, but it was not noticeable, and wet places remained. Tomorrow I will thoroughly try to steam and wash sofas and windows. And while working with the unit, the thought came to me that maybe I still need a washing vacuum cleaner ?!
lana19
Angelina! Refer to the instructions for the recommended heating time. In Karcher 8-15 minutes. 15 minutes for drier steam.
Alenka212
Quote: Angelina29

And while working with the unit, the thought came to me that maybe I still need a washing vacuum cleaner ?!
Angelina, you can use a steam generator to remove stains from sofas, carpets (steam it off, blow it off and wipe it off with a cloth), and refresh the surface. And thoroughly wash with a washing vacuum cleaner. He has a different principle of work.
Theoretically, there should be both.
lillay
I also carry my own feedback on the work of Karcher 1020.
I bought it mainly for washing tiles in the dignity. node, kitchen hood, gas stove.
It was all washed up during the first test drive of the steam cleaner. I was very pleased with the result. The hood above the gas stove has never been so cleaned. And now it shines like new! The tile joints on the bathroom floor were washed in one go without any chemicals. My washing robot vacuum cleaner does not wash them, although by design it should not ... I really liked how the tile joints on the walls in the shower stall were washed. There was a soapy deposit on them, which was difficult and inconvenient to remove with detergents. And then all the laundering with a minimum of effort for a couple of brush strokes! I also walked the steam along the tiled walls of the bathroom.You can reach everywhere with a brush, it is very convenient that there is a long compound handle for this. I also walked along the plastic ceiling to the dignity. node. The seams between the plastic did not warp, and the white plastic became whiter ... But I did not steam it near the raster lamps in this ceiling, so that they would not be short-circuited by moisture. Even though there was a desire ..... I read in reviews that the sockets are washed with steam .... maybe you can walk through these lamps too? ... The only thing that was not washed with steam the first time was the glass doors of the shower stall. But something needs to be left for washing next time ...
My conclusion - Karcher 1020 - is quite a worthy steam cleaner, it fulfilled its tasks, making it easier for me to clean.
gala10
Quote: lillay

- [I read in the reviews that the sockets are washed with steam .... maybe you can walk through these lamps too? ...
How can the sockets be washed with steam? Please tell me who did it!
lana19
I washed. But only in the kitchen. They are on my tiles near the stove. He heated the water in the PO for 15 minutes to form the most dry steam. The first zilch in a raspberry, to remove water from the formed condensate. And that's all. Where the rosettes are on the wallpaper, I didn't dare. Steam may come off the wallpaper.
I blew out the middle with a point nozzle and rubbed it with a small round brush.
gala10
Thank you, Sveta!
Mar_k
So I have an assistant! Kromax 803! I started with Baths - it became cleaner, their corners and cracks were cleared of dirt! I cleaned out the copper taps, though not without the help of additional funds, but now without water deposits and acquired their own shade! Generally satisfied!

But I don’t understand how to understand that the water is running out? Will the pair be smaller?
gala10
Quote: Mar_k

So I have an assistant! Kromax 803! I started with Baths - it became cleaner, their corners and cracks were cleared of dirt! I cleaned out the copper taps, though not without the help of additional funds, but now without water deposits and acquired their own shade! Generally satisfied!
Marina, congratulations on your cool assistant!
Mar_k
Can they wash the plafonds right on the chandelier?
gala10
I washed. Naturally, the chandelier was turned off, and then turned on only after about 4 hours, so that everything dries well. The chandelier is shining!

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