Pneumatic Elderly Lifting Device

People! There is such a topic ... In England, a pneumatic lift for the elderly is produced. There are practically no analogues to this device.

mangarhealth.com/patient-lifting/elk-lifting-cushion

The price tag is simply horse, we are not supplied from the word at all. I accidentally got to the distributor of one enterprise specializing in the manufacture of tourist equipment. She explained to him why I needed an inflatable ottoman (and what to do?), In response he said that he would try to discuss this topic in production.
Nobody wants to join?
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Izhevsk gave data
Dimensions length 100 cm, width 60 cm, height 50 cm
4 separately inflated airbags + switch adapter.
The cost of the pillow itself is 20,000 =
Pumps are purchased separately, the following are offered:

pneumatic lift

Based on my own experience and colleagues, this lift is not as safe as it seems ...

[Fun]

Fun, your version of lifting a fallen half-paralyzed person, provided that there are no men in the family and NOBODY is at the entrance and NEVER opens the door to the bell?
Option 112 - do not offer! It all depends on the competence of the operator, yesterday she called me - they sent me emergency officers, all the rules! And the last time - despite the fact that she explained everything in detail - they sent an ambulance. There are two grandmothers of pre-retirement age, they supported, and I dragged!

[Svetlana]

Svetlana, I'm in. Almost the same problem occurs periodically.

[Tatyana]

Tatyana, wonderful.
As the manager told me, tomorrow he will talk to the masters, we did not discuss the terms - what are the terms here ... if they can offer at least something, we will be very grateful! As soon as the answer comes, I will immediately inform you!

[Svetlana]

Svetlana, well, this is not just an inflatable ottoman, it consists of several chambers and a complicated compressor.

[Alex100]

Alex100, of course ....
But on no fish ... the ottoman that I liked has a load of 150 kg. And I explained to the manager why he was to me, in fact, the correspondence unfolded due to the fact that their mail was not declared in the delivery methods, but only by courier and we did not get into the delivery area. In response, the manager wrote that this ottoman does not fit, but he will try to talk in production - maybe they will construct it.
I wrote here because I thought that maybe someone from the members of the forum has a similar problem and someone will join. Agree - to rivet a single thing on a special order is one thing, and quite another - albeit a small one, but a batch! Maybe they will somehow spin this lot for greater benefit and their profit.

the ottoman that I liked has a load of 150 kg

for a "pneumatic lift for the elderly" this weight is nothing, as is the case with an English product. It is optimal to count the device on a person weighing 175 kg, that is, in fact, the device must withstand a load of 350-400 kg so as not to fall apart under the user.
For the successful promotion of the product, the question of the price at which the device can be purchased is no less important.

[vatruska]

vatruska, I will try to describe a little what awaits you with this lift ...
Granny fell, she lies ... You take out an ottoman and turn on the compressor ..
1. Granny should be seated EXACTLY in the middle of the pouf! (if there is the slightest deviation, the person will just fall over)
2. When landing / lifting, it may rip the air hose from the compressor
3. If the person being lifted is elderly, dementia or problems with disorders of the vestibular apparatus are not excluded and an inadequate reaction is possible when lifting ...
Imagine all this.In the picture and video, of course, everything is good and smooth ... but far from reality.
Consider hydraulic lifters.

Consider hydraulic lifts

Nowhere to put! That's absolutely !!!

Granny should be seated EXACTLY in the middle of the pouf!

No need to sit down! Review the video again. A person is rolled onto their side, a lift pillow is pushed under their back, and they are rolled back (for someone who cares constantly - a routine procedure). Then they stand behind their backs !!! and turn on the pump. The whole trick is that the injection goes section by section from the lowest cushion and is very smooth. Back - control from behind!
The whole point of this device is that the fallen person is conscious !, NOTHING broke-dislocated-bruised-pulled, he simply cannot rise. For the option of the impossibility of controlling the back on the manufacturer's website there is a slightly different variation, more cumbersome, we are not talking about it at all now.
Well, if the fallen person is completely unconscious or completely inadequate - there is nothing to talk about at all - ONLY FAST!

Review the video again.

I don't need to do this.
Good luck to you!

[Fun]

Fun, Thank you!
Nowhere to go ... I asked a question about the lift on the specialized forums ... you have no idea what they answered there ... like take this channel and weld it there, but pin this pimp here! but this heavy hydraulic fool is better to take over there and attach it somewhere ... and all sincerely !!!! although it was clearly stated that there were TWO women in the apartment, and one of them was paralyzed.

No need to sit down! A person is rolled onto their side, a lift pillow is pushed under their back, and they are rolled back (for someone who cares constantly - a routine procedure).

People are right when they say it is beautiful only on video and for people who are relatively controlling themselves.

I remember my situation. The little thin old woman was unbearable in this situation, as if she was being nailed to the floor, neither lifted, nor turned over, nor bent! And besides, a sick person does not allow himself to be touched, he waves his hands “do not touch”! Only a healthy male neighbor could cope with it, took it like a child in his arms and carried it to the bed. What kind of chair is there, when it turns as it does not allow to touch, I could not cope with it.

Therefore, first assess the condition of the person for whom such an expensive device is purchased. As a rule, sick old people only progress in diseases for the worse, all the "delights" of the state can only be ahead. And money will still be useful to you for caring for a sick person, a lot of money.

I remember my situation. The little skinny old woman was unbearable in this situation, as if she had been nailed to the floor, neither lifted, nor turned, turned over, nor bent!

so it was with me - I could not lift my husband's granny-fluff in any way, in any way ((somehow I could tuck the blanket under her, cover it from above and wait for her husband ((

[vatruska]

vatruska, Light, excuse me, maybe it's better to have such a tapa bed

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that the person would not fall at all

somehow I could tuck the blanket under her, cover it on top and wait for her husband

And I had so many times, just waiting for the neighbor to return home, or running around the neighbors, looking for other "men"
The doctors also recommended me to make something like a "rim" along the contour of the bed on an ordinary bed.

And then, Sveta does not say something (sorry!) About the condition of her relative.
Or is it just a paralyzed woman and the "rim" along the contour of the bed is enough for her to simply not fall.
Or is it already dementia with consequences, in which people no longer control themselves, and "jump" on the bed, where only forces come from for this, and can destroy everything in their path, and tear to shreds. Here the rim is no longer enough, here, sorry, the cage is needed.

the thin old woman was too heavy

With paresis, the weight increases two to three times.

You can buy a lift on Avito for quite adequate money ...

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Since 11 years old, my daughter coped with him perfectly, she lifted me from the floor and transplanted / s.

[Admin]

Admin, her entire left side is paralyzed, but she gets up, moves around the room with side steps, pulling up her leg. She goes to the toilet herself. But sometimes, while standing up, the head may spin and then it falls. I am sitting in the next room - I work at a computer, I cannot work with her in the room - the TV is constantly on and I just cannot concentrate on the documents. And she doesn't call me, only when she flops ... these are the pies ...
And I already lifted it from the floor !!! Itself!!! Now the hernia and I myself after the abdominal operation ... there is no one to call - just no one opens the door !!!
I saw this hydraulic lift, but even such a small one will eat up precious space, and it will be needed only once a year! (though this year I have already flopped twice ...).



selenа, thanks, of course, but she gets up. A cousin once made a fence on the bed so that it would not fall, now they have removed it.

Can't the jacks used for car repairs be adapted? There are also different types of mechanisms, both electric and inflatable, including, to inflate with the help of a car compressor.

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[polliar]

polliar, oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh !!! Thank you so much!!!
I threw it in the bookmarks ... If the manufacturer from Udmurtia does not answer - as an option, quite ...

[Sveta]

But sometimes, while standing up, the head may spin and then it falls.

Sveta, then she can just get a "walker" around the apartment. So that both when getting up and when walking is supported by them.
It's another matter if "misfortune" catches you in the toilet, but then nothing will help (not even a hydraulic pillow), just sorry, drag it out of the narrow space and attach it to the walker.

Oh, it's easy to give advice to others, but not to yourself

[Svetlana]

Bookmarked ...

Svetlana, well, I do not understand at all in automotive matters, and if you decide to buy, you can first consult with a specialist, from the same online store, to choose the appropriate option, both in price and in functions.

[Admin]

just buy a "walker"

Admin, there is a walker, but you need to lean on them with BOTH hands, but only one works. And it won't fall in the toilet - firstly, it's tiny ... and secondly, the handrails were attached.

you can first consult with a specialist,

polliar, of course ... that's just unlikely in this case, he will advise at least some responsibility to take on himself ... As in the case of the ottoman ... there he immediately said that it would not work, but they would try to come up with something ... And what will he say here? Nizzzayayayayayayayayaya.

[under]

Broke NOTHING-dislocated-bruised-pulled, just can't get up

the problem is that very often in elderly people, including those without any paralysis and in a relatively sane mind, the fact of a fracture can only be detected by X-ray results. And it is for the same reason that there is a recommendation not to turn those who have fallen on their backs in the absence of doctors, so as not to cause even more harm, since the patient may require mandatory preliminary fixation of some joints and body parts.

but even such a small one will eat up precious space, but it will be needed only once a year! (though this year already flopped twice ...)

In this case, the lift will give you a chance not to rip off your back and lift the fallen person. And not so much he "eats" space, because his "legs" can be placed under the bed by installing it at the end or side of the bed.
But here everyone decides for himself: we need "checkers in dreams of the future" or "go here and now."
+ In your case, it is optimal to install handrails along the entire path of your relative's movement.

[Marina]

install handrails optimally

Marina, already screwed it where possible, but where it falls - nothing ... not at all ...

because its "legs" can be placed under the bed

The place is already taken ...there is a structure with a holder, a kind of crane, with which it is pulled up. In principle - it can be solved - if you hammer in the ceiling and lower the holders from there, but it's dumb ... a piece of plaster from the ceiling has already fallen, about 10 kg ... the ceiling slabs lie sikos-nakos ... with glue, probably, and what will happen if you hammer there - no one will say and how much it will result in - too.

And she doesn't call me, only when she flops.

Svetlana, this is not about the lift. Give her a whistle or a bell in hand - maybe that’s what she will call. My mom just knocked on the wall.

[Anna]

Give her a whistle or a bell in hand

Anna, and it is ... it's just her principled position ...

it's just her principled position ...

Then - yes, it is difficult.

Good day!
Izhevsk replied:
"we suggest making a length of 100 cm, a width of 60 cm, a height of 50 cm, 4 pillows.
We figured out the pump. An ordinary Intex pump does not seem to help, we will try to find a suitable pump from what is available in Izhevsk.
Let's think about the adapter. Most likely it will be a single hose pump that will have a splitter adapter with a 4-hose switch. "
The price will be announced after the pump is determined.



Good day!
I laid out the cost and terms of delivery in the first post.

I got it ... I am reporting ... unfortunately, the skeptics were right! Yesterday I fell, I rolled her onto the lift, even inflated her, but that's it! He cannot get up - everything is being forced through. Again 112 ...
The most important thing and which was never mentioned during all the correspondence with the manufacturer (even on the intermediate videos sent!) - there were not separate independent pillows, but a kind of version of an inflatable bath, that is, the upper solid pillow, and under it 3 type of inflatable circle ...
I feel like a fool ... full ... both in size and in reason ...