What's the difference between 254, 255, 256 and 257?

What is the difference between models 254 and 255 apart from the dispenser? Tell a newbie

In the instructions for the 255th, only one difference from the 254 is the dispenser.

Have you forgotten about rye? In the 254th there is no rye bread program.

And the knife (mixer), respectively, one.

Yeah, there was no time to look at the instructions.

Now I looked. On the 3rd page, there are instructions even with pictures. In the 254th there is no rye bread mode and there is no dispenser (for adding additives - a sound signal), and there is also no recess in the lid for storing a measuring spoon. (to be honest, not a necessary thing at all).

Although the 254 model does not have a rye bread mode and there is only one stirrer, it copes perfectly with baking rye without these things

In my 255, I often knead rye in the "pizza" mode, and then I wait until it rises to the height I need and turn on the baking for an hour. On the Rye program, the bread does not rise very well.
And in the notch for storing the measuring spoon, I have a second stirrer.

Thanks for answers. I don’t know which bread maker to choose. Panasonic 255 is nowhere to be found, therefore it disappears, I found the 254th in an Internet store, but I also look at the mulnex 5002. And I just don't know what to choose. I have read all the reviews, the price categories are approximately the same, each of these bread makers has its own advantages. So I want not to be mistaken in choosing a beginner.

Yesterday I became the owner of 254 Panasonic. At night I baked for the first time - the main one, for testing. Everything worked out!
But I was very upset by the lack of a dispenser, in pursuit of 255 (I could not find it at a reasonable price (for 9 thousand to buy - my hand did not rise.) I poorly re-read the instructions and did not understand that apart from the absence of the rye program, there was no dispenser either.
It turns out that now, in order to bake a "kind" bread ..., for example, with cheese or candied fruits, I have to be with the bread machine almost always. Even the function with which you can see how long it will take to add ingredients does not save you from chagrin. And you can't put it for breakfast at night. Was upset.

Yesterday I became the owner of 254 Panasonic. At night I baked for the first time - the main one, for testing. Everything worked out!
But I was very upset by the lack of a dispenser, in pursuit of 255 (I could not find it at a reasonable price (for 9 thousand to buy - my hand did not rise.) I poorly re-read the instructions and did not understand that apart from the absence of the rye program, there was no dispenser either.
It turns out that now, in order to bake a "kind" bread ..., for example, with cheese or candied fruits, I have to be with the bread machine almost always. Even the function with which you can see how long it will take to add ingredients does not save you from chagrin. And you can't put it for breakfast at night. Was upset.

I don't see a problem, I have it, I still put candied fruits and other additives along with all the ingredients.
And I only baked rye a couple of times on this program. I do without it (I don't like preheating, I'm impatient)

So I was chasing 255 because of the program "Rye" and the dispenser, but in fact I do not use either one or the other. No, sometimes, of course, I use it, but sooo rarely, it is quite possible to live without these functions. By the way, we (some) here on the forum baked rye bread on the gluten-free baking program. It turns out very well.

Thank you so much!!! Cheered :). Although, I'm still arriving in some confusion .... I don't understand where my hands are growing from. Out of four attempts, only one bread came out - the first. The rest - some kind of wet inside and one crust is edible ... It turned out to be so difficult ... here I sit studying the forum in search of my mistakes ...
So I want to hope that I will learn ...

[ma.Masha]

ma.Masha, do not be discouraged, be sure to learn;) Not everyone succeeds right away, you need to adapt, feel your stove, but then, it will go like clockwork!

ma.Masha, don't be discouraged. I do not use a dispenser, I put all the additives either at once or during kneading. I do not like that it remains open after triggering, and the bread can rise very high, I had that rested against the lid.
And I use the Rye program, but I don't like the fact that the baking lasts 1 hour, the crust is very fried, I usually turn it off 10 minutes before the end.
Which program to use for rye, see the topic https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=1038.0

And I fell in love with my 255 so much that I bought 253 as a second stove. I didn't even think about buying something other than Panasonic.

I became the proud owner of a Panasonic SD-254 on June 22, and for a whole month we have not bought bread at all. I constantly bake myself. So far strictly according to the recipes from the instructions, but without a single "misfire". I'm still a beginner - this is my first bread maker

Also the same question ... I have a Mulya-5004 (common for the family), I'm already used to it, but when my father offered to give it to me personally, I realized that I wanted a Panas. There are often problems with the bucket in mules ...
I just don't know if it's 254 or 255. The difference is about $ 50. e.
Does the 254 have a beep to add raisins, etc. instead of a mule dispenser?
Somehow my questions are not even formulated anymore.
Tell who doesn't like about these stoves. Or refer to another topic. And then I got lost here in Panasonic.

[yuliya_k]

Tell who doesn't like about these stoves. Or refer to another topic. And then I got lost here in Panasonic.

yuliya_k
As you can see, I have Panasonic254. I am satisfied with everything in this HP: the quality of the baking, how it kneads the dough, how I manage it, the recipes for it. I have been communicating with HP for 11 months already, she works for me every day.
There is a signal by which various additives are manually filled in.
I bought a mixer for rye bread in the service center, so without the Rye program, I bake black bread.
Panasonic 255 and 254 even have one instruction book, because their difference is in the Rye program, but the owners overcome this.
What remains is the dispenser that the 255 has and the 254 does not. But the additives can be added manually.
What else interests you?

[yuliya_k]

yuliya_k, I have a 255th model. Frankly, I rarely use the options that differ from the 254th one. I rarely bake bread with additives, and I need to pour more raisins into the rolls than the dispenser can hold (I love having a lot of raisins). I used to knead the dough for dumplings, but I rarely cook dumplings / dumplings, I think that the "pizza" program will do just fine too. I never made friends with the rye program. I bake either on the main program, or I combine "pizza" - "pastries".

So, if the amount of $ 50 for your family is rather big, then the 254th model will justify itself completely. Moreover, the prices for these bread machines are unreasonably high.

[Rina72]

So, if the amount of $ 50 for your family is rather big, then the 254th model will justify itself completely. Moreover, the prices for these bread machines are unreasonably high.

I totally agree with you Rina72 !
And the prices are high, as you say, because of the high demand for these HP and the wild laws of our, so to speak, market.
yuliya_k , I consciously bought the HP of this brand and model number, and never regretted it!
The choice is yours! Good luck!

Lana, to be honest, if I had to buy HP now, I wouldn't buy Panasonic. Just a year and a half ago I was very lucky and I grabbed it at a normal price (and took the same Panas255 even cheaper for my father-in-law).

[Rina72]

Lana, to be honest, if I had to buy HP now, I wouldn't buy Panasonic. Just a year and a half ago I was very lucky and I grabbed it at a normal price (and took the same Panas255 even cheaper for my father-in-law).

And I would buy at any price, collect money and buy.
I have a gas stove in my kitchen, a microwave oven - everything is made of stainless steel, plus the overall design of the room, but even the design did not stop me.
Rina72 why would you exchange our Panas for another and which one? I bought for 5120 rubles. in February this year.

I bought a mixer for rye bread in the service center, so without the Rye program, I bake black bread.

A completely optional contraption. At one time, my sister bought me this very mixer-comb. I tried it several times, but I saw nothing besides the additional load on the engine. I don't use it anymore.

Now the price of Panas-254 is almost 7 thousand rubles, 255 is far beyond 7. LG stands nearby at a price of 3500- 4200.
With such price layouts, I would not take Panasonic.

[lana7386,]

lana7386,
Why don't I take Panasonic now? For the same reasons I wrote Aglo... We now have these bread makers:
245th model 189-210 dollars,
255th - $ 214-250.
And I bought my 255 for 170. Plus - it was before the crisis. My grasping reflex just worked (I came across a stove that seems to be praised for a reasonable price). And I had a little more information than zero point zero.
If I were in the same situation today (in terms of preparedness), then I would not have taken Panasonic simply for financial reasons.
I would be guided by Kenwood (I have a warm attitude to this technique, albeit unmotivated).
Just today I advised a friend who does not understand bread makers at all: buy a kenwood - either 350 or 450. And to friends who are seriously limited financially and most likely will not be engaged in bakery delights, I advised to take not a 256 model of a kenwood, but a 350 (there the price difference is relatively small).

[lana7386,]

lana7386,
Why don't I take Panasonic now? For the same reasons I wrote Aglo... We now have these bread makers:
245th model 189-210 dollars,
255th - $ 214-250.
And I bought my 255 for 170.

Rina72
I understand you. But I remember the words of one of our members of the forum, who changed Panasonic 253 to Kenwood (?), Because she liked the design, and good reviews about this HP. So her conclusion after the bread from the new HP was as follows: after Panasonic you only need to buy Panasonic, if you buy the first HP, then you can do anything (there is nothing to compare with).

I hope that I will not get up soon before choosing a new bread machine for my beloved. Here, indeed, if the bar was lifted up from the very beginning, then it will not work to lower it. But I still have everything ahead of me - ahead of me mastering Yunold (hybrid HP + cartoon). There is just a bakery of sweet bread and a round bucket. So, in the spring I will try to bake in it.

[Algo]

A completely optional contraption. At one time my sister bought me this very mixer-comb. I tried it several times, but I saw nothing besides the additional load on the engine. I don't use it anymore.

Explain to the lady, though not the blonde, why the area is smaller and the resistance force is greater ...Algo

Thank you all very much!

I'll tell my father, let him focus on 254. True, while it is still ripe ...
I already like it, and that there is a signal (for that really rare case of bread with additives), so I'm used to it in a mule. I will also go somewhere to the store, I will look at them, which will suit my soul better.

By the way, bakers from Kiev, where you can watch them live (I work at metro Teatralnaya).

As for Kenwood 350, I will say that this was our first HP, which did not even knead the first bread, it turned out that it was some kind of marriage, they waited for a part in the service for 2 months, then my father decided to pay extra and changed it to a mule. Somehow I didn't want to take Kenwood after that. Although we have a Kenwood meat grinder, it has been plowing like a horse (a family of 7 people! And they all love cutlets) for years ... we don't remember how long.
Girls (and boys!) Do you know why I want Panas now? You have not so many things like "broken, not working, leaking" here. And you go to Mulinex and read what we write there.

Can you knead rye without a rye blade?
What you can bake without a rye program is clear to me, in my mule-5004 there is a prog. Borodinsky, in my opinion is absolutely useless.I bake it in a completely different way, thanks to smart people from the forum
In mulinex, the shoulder blades (two of them at once) are the same for rye and wheat.

[yuliya_k]

yuliya_kwhere to look, frankly, I don’t know. Maybe in MegaMax stores (prices are high there, Panasonic may well be on the shelves).

[yuliya_k]

yuliya_k

Can you knead rye without a rye blade?

Sure you may. Many, with rare exceptions, knead and bake without it.

lana7386

... why the area is smaller and the resistance force is greater ...

If the dough were so liquid that it would pass through the comb (or the comb would pass through it), then the resistance would really be less with a smaller area, all other things being equal. But the conditions are no longer equal - the main area of ​​the comb is located further from the axis of rotation (the shoulder of the force application has increased).
My dough is not so liquid and does not pass through the comb, it clogs up the slots in it, which is equivalent to increasing the area of ​​the mixer.
Moreover, since, unlike the main mixer, a large area (the resistance force of the dough is proportional to the area of ​​the mixer) is further from the axis of rotation, it is easier for the dough to stop the motor or, on the contrary, the motor has to apply more force to turn the dough.

[yuliya_k]

yuliya_k Sure you may. Many, with rare exceptions, knead and bake without it.

Unlike the main mixer, a large area (the resistance force of the dough is proportional to the area of ​​the mixer) is farther from the rotation axis, then it is easier for the dough to stop the motor or, on the contrary, the motor has to apply more force to turn the dough.

Aglo, thanks for the answer. On several points I disagree with you, but I don’t want to start a dispute. Let's stick to our opinion, everyone ...
Emoticons are not working for me at the moment, but I wanted to add colors and humor to my post. I'm sorry.
Thanks again for the answer. Yours faithfully

Also the same question ... I have a Mulya-5004 (common for the family), I'm already used to it, but when my father offered to give it to me personally, I realized that I wanted a Panas. There are often problems with the bucket in mules ...
I just don't know if it's 254 or 255. The difference is about $ 50. e.
Does the 254 have a beep to add raisins, etc. instead of a mule dispenser?
Somehow my questions are not even formulated anymore.
Tell who doesn't like about these stoves. Or refer to another topic. And then I got lost here in Panasonic.

Hello! I'm new here, but I can tell you that 254 is practically no different from 255, except for the absence of a rye bread program and the absence of a dispenser. And additives can be put on a signal from the stove.

Brains are already boiling for a week of scouring the Internet. I decided to stay at Panasonic, but there are also an immeasurable amount of them.Tomorrow I will buy both HP and MV

[Gallka]

Gallka 254 and 255 are discontinued, replaced by 256 and 257, respectively

Brains are already boiling for a week of scouring the Internet. I decided to stay at Panasonic, but there are also a lot of them

Likewise. Only my case is complicated by the fact that I am in Tashkent, and a friend in Moscow will buy the stove. We have already broken our brains together, nowhere is there 255th, which has sunk into my soul so deeply after long studies of reviews about stoves.

[sazalexter]

sazalexter, which means that the 257th is a complete analogue of the 255th and you can safely order this model?

[-Viola-]

-Viola- - in 56 and 57 buckets of the best quality

Girls, thank you all very much! We responded so quickly. And what's not the answer is useful information. And I think that this is nowhere to be 255, and where it is so much more expensive than 257. Now everything falls into place.

Thanks to the girls and the boys too
I will, therefore, bake my bread-pies from the 257th

[Panasonic SD-257]

Is there any difference between Panasonic SD-257 and Panasonic SD-257WTS ?
Very, very important! I have to give a friend the final answer which stove to buy.

[-Viola-]

-Viola- This is the same thing, with the letters WTS supplied to the countries of the ex-USSR

Hello everybody! Help me decide on the choice of a bread machine! I stopped at Panasonic 257, only now I'm embarrassed by what is produced in China ((((Please tell me who has which production and how it serves! Thanks in advance to everyone !!!!!!

How it serves read here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=80533.0

Tell me, what's the difference between 256 and 257? Only in stock dispenser? I decided to buy HP. I chose Panaonic. But I found only 256 on sale and now I am tormented by doubts about how much worse it is than 257.

Tell me, what's the difference between 256 and 257? Only in stock dispenser? I decided to buy HP. I chose Panaonic. But I found only 256 on sale and now I am tormented by doubts about how much worse it is than 257.

You understand everything correctly, the only difference is in the presence of a dispenser. Whether you need it or not, it's up to you to decide. I have a dispenser in 255, but I still don't use it. But if you want to often bake bread with raisins or other additives, and besides, on a timer, then it is better to have a dispenser.

[owlblack]

owlblack
Besides dispenser there is one more difference between 256 and 257 (as well as between 254 and 255) - the presence of the program Rye bread.
Kit 257 (and 255) includes a paddle for kneading rye dough.

Here is a link to instructions for 256 and 257:
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It says about the differences ...

That is, it is impossible to bake rye bread at 256?

Why is it impossible? Very much even possible. I'll tell you a secret, the rye program in Panasonic, apparently, is designed for ready-made imported mixes. And rye bread can be baked using the main program, or in manual mode (kneading dough separately, baking separately). Look for recipes, ask in specific topics.

[Rina72]

That is, it is impossible to bake rye bread at 256?

It is possible to bake!

I have never used the Rye program (I have 255).
I regularly bake rye (more precisely Borodinsky) bread according to this recipe:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=6778.0

My homemade rye bread is the most favorite.

But I use a spatula for rye dough.
Rye dough is more viscous than wheat dough, and using a special spatula (it looks like a comb) the machine makes it easier to knead the dough.
PS
Oh while writing Rina72 already answered

Thank you! And then I was already upset to the point of impossibility. In the online store through which I usually order everything, there is no 257. I found this model in another store, but it turns out to be almost 2.5 thousand more expensive.

Yes Yes! I bought it! 256 model! She stands in the kitchen and bakes my first bread!
Now tell me where you can buy a shovel for rye bread? She's also good for 256?

Well, here I became the owner of the 256th Panasonic.

Before that, there were LG (they just changed because of "old age"), Kenwood (strangely missing a scapula for kneading dough + claims about the quality of bread accumulated), and now - Panasonic.
I wanted, of course, to take the 257th model, but I hardly even found the 256th in one copy.

Girls, tell me, I’ve read and read my head already dizzy from the models of bread makers and decided to buy a Panasonic-257 bread machine. Tell me, but do you need to add the proportions to it just to hang on the scales? Thank you.

The choice is yours:
you can use the scales
you can use measuring cups and spoons
you can choose other options for measuring ingredients, it is important to observe the proportions and bun

the rest see here:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=131.0

[timofenok]

timofenok, I specially bought for Panasonic today electronic scales for 500 kopecks rubles (up to 3 kg).
Set to make French bread now.

Where did you buy it? Today I saw it for 1500, and it will be more pleasant with 500 kopecks.

I used the current scales once - when I measured out rice for rice bread. everything else is measuring dishes, and I was not mistaken) although I suspect that the scales have their own conveniences)