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My washer and dryer Electrolux is "dying". The cost of repairs is almost half the cost of a new car, so I decided to buy a new one. Also with drying.
The problem is that we need a car with a depth of more than 60 cm, such dimensions were seen only by Aristons and Indesites.
Does anyone have any experience of communication and drying on these machines? What are the reviews?
Tanyusha
Before the new year, my village stove broke down, the Indesin machine broke down with me for 9 years and the repair was said to cost 50% of the cost of the machine, so on New Year's holidays I climbed the forums where washing machines were discussed and on January 3 I bought myself a narrow Zanusi, though without drying, but I didn't want her. So, Indesit and Ariston are not advised to take, the build quality and problems with spare parts have dropped (I am writing what I read on the Internet on the forums). It all depends on your funds from inexpensive advise Zanusi (this subsidiary of Electrolux collects them in St. Petersburg) more expensive ones are Bosch, Electrolux, Mile, Asko, Kandy, etc.
Andreevna
I have an Indesite with a tumble dryer. , but these are no longer released. We bought it when another dollar was worth about 6 rubles. Can you imagine how old she is! It still works, but I use the dryer very rarely, it has a spin of 1200 rpm, it squeezes almost dry. I don’t know which ones Indesit produces now, but they used to be wonderful and reliable. But you probably will have to change sometime, so the opinion of others is also interested.
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Quote: tanya1962

It all depends on your funds from inexpensive advise Zanusi (this subsidiary of Electrolux collects them in St. Petersburg) the more expensive ones are Bosch, Electrolux, Mila, Asko, Kandy, etc.
I did not find from these manufacturers of tumble dryers with a depth of less than 60cm (((((((They are all deep ((
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Quote: Andreevna

I have an Indesite with a tumble dryer. , but these are no longer released. We bought it when another dollar was worth about 6 rubles. Can you imagine how old she is! It still works, but I use the dryer very rarely, it has a spin of 1200 rpm, it squeezes almost dry. I don’t know which ones Indesit produces now, but they used to be wonderful and reliable. But you probably will have to change sometime, so the opinion of others is also interested.

Andreevna,
Indesit now has a drying model Indesit WIDL 106
Not like that with you?
Lika
Rustic stove, Candy (Italy) - with drying, 10 years of almost daily merciless use, drying 1-2 times a week for bed linen and towels, that is, long. The only breakdown a few months ago. Not all programs began to be performed completely, the reason is ridiculous, she has "brains" - the board is located near the floor in an unsealed plastic container and over time the contacts oxidized from dust and moisture (standing in the bathroom), the master did not have to be called, the husband cleaned it with sandpaper on the container glued the window seal and that's it. I don’t know if they have narrow cars, but if there is a great choice.
Tanyusha
I was very pleased with my Indesit and wanted to buy only Indesit, but after reading the reviews I was afraid.
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Rustic stove, Candy (Italy) - with drying

Lika, what model do you have?
I found this: Candy CSW 105
collected in Italy.
Andreevna
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Andreevna,
Indesit now has a drying model Indesit WIDL 106
Not like that with you?
No, model 2296XW. My two girlfriends after me bought the same one, they also still work, they have not even broken down even once.
Lika
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Lika, what model do you have?
I found this: Candy CSW 105
collected in Italy.
Candy ALISE 101 ES, but it is 60 cm.I'm bored of the typewriter in the bathroom. When I change, I will put a new one in the kitchen under the countertop, let the CM and PM stand side by side.
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Girls,
but does anyone know anything about the Kaiser?
For the price - slightly cheaper than Bosch.
It fits me in size.
But I have never seen such a technique "live". And what about the service?

(damn it, while I was thinking about the washer - the dishwasher broke down, two expensive boards need to be replaced, all the equipment just crumbles)
Yana
"Kaiser" has a polyplex tank in frontal models, stainless steel - in vertical ones. Washing - class A for all models. Service life -10 years.
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"Kaiser" has a polyplex tank in frontal models, stainless steel in vertical ones. Washing - class A for all models. Service life -10 years.

Thank you. I read everything that is written on their official website.

I'm wondering if there are users of this technique? What are your impressions of this Kaiser and did you have to deal with the service?

Tanyusha
I have a village stove Kaiser, only the hood has been working for 9 years now, and there were no complaints. I know they had good glass ceramic hobs.
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I have a village stove Kaiser, only the hood has been working for 9 years now, and there were no complaints. I know they had good glass ceramic hobs.

tanya1962, thanks. I looked - in the Kaisers network many shops are selling. I'll think. I'm afraid to get involved in Ariston. And expensive cars do not fit me in size. And the Kaiser seems to be the golden mean.
Yana
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And expensive cars do not fit me in size. And the Kaiser seems to be the golden mean.

Found a little post about Kaiser. It's called "Stay Kaiser, with us - you will be our king." These washing machines are highly praised there. They write that Kaiser has its own recirculation system and inclined drum. This saves washing. powder, water and electricity. And by design, these washing machines are one of the most beautiful. I myself wanted to buy a Kaiser 3 years ago, but they did not fit me in height.
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Found a little post about Kaiser. It's called "Stay Kaiser, with us - you will be our king." These washing machines are highly praised there. They write that Kaiser has its own recirculation system and inclined drum. This saves washing. powder, water and electricity. And by design, these washing machines are one of the most beautiful. I myself wanted to buy a Kaiser 3 years ago, but they did not fit me in height.

Yeah, I saw this article. I am also glad that they have models with triple AAA. True, it is written that washing is even SuperA, but what it is I don't really know))
Yana
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True, it is written that washing is even SuperA, but what it is I don't really know))

What is there to imagine? It is clear that it washes even better than just class A.
Zubastik
But this question worries me - are there any models of washing machines that wash in high water, and not by the type of water saving so that the laundry is "wet"? Is this how old Vyatka was washed before?
I have a problem of choosing a washing machine, in principle I want the most expensive free-standing BOSCH. But I'm worried about the quality of the wash. Earlier (for a long time) we had Vyatka - she washed in big water (about 15 cm of water was visible in the window) in all programs. She worked with us for 15 years, even when she was thrown out she was still normal. Bought Ariston in 98, the most expensive. At first we were terrified of how she washes - the amount of water was unusual, then we got used to it. A few months later, they began to notice that bed linen, bedspreads, which were washed successfully in Vyatka, become dilapidated very quickly. Moreover, with the possibility of spinning at 1400 rpm, we squeezed a maximum of 700! My favorite beach blanket was frayed to holes in one season. And in Vyatka it survived for many years. Seeing such a picture, we thought about what to do. There was only one way out - to pour water for the main wash on the "Wool" program (as before in Vyatka, about 15 cm) and then switch to any other program.Rinse - again "Wool" rinse for two cycles. So they ran after this machine for many years, switching it all the time. And now I'm afraid of how things are with new cars. Suddenly, I will no longer have the opportunity of "big water" - there is complete electronics there. And suddenly there are machines for pouring a lot of water - maybe an additional button, but I don't know about it. Ariston is already almost broken. We need a car! And the final choice is difficult to make!
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Quote: Admin

In principle, drying is not particularly necessary if the spinning of the laundry is at high speeds.

Admin, if you were using a tumble dryer, then you would look differently at these things. There is no need to throw things along the ropes or dry pillows near the battery. Just take it out and use it.
When the dryer broke down at my washing machine, I was just like no hands.
And of course, drying is an invaluable thing for those who have children at an age when, after a walk, even in not very bad weather, all outerwear must be washed (and preferably with a child). I got along with one set of children's outerwear for the fall, and I washed and dried it every day during the child's nap.
Yana
Quote: Zubastik

But this question worries me - are there any models of washing machines that wash in high water, and not by the type of water saving so that the laundry is "wet"?

And now I'm afraid of how things are with new cars. Suddenly, I will no longer have the opportunity of "big water" - there is complete electronics there. And suddenly there are machines for pouring a lot of water - maybe an additional button, but I don't know about it.

Zubastik, in my opinion now all western washing machines save water. But there must be some models where water can be added. You already need to find out from the sellers, read the instructions. In my wash. This is called "high water level" in a car, but in others it can be called differently.
Zubastik
Yana, there would be these sellers! I take all the information from the Internet, the sellers from us are neither be nor me, nor a crow. For the level of water consumption, they immediately climb into the instructions - and what's the point, there is the total water consumption for the program cycle, and it is impossible to calculate how much water will be in the tank. Tell me what kind of car do you have? Maybe I'll follow in your model's footsteps.
Yana
Zubastik, I agree about the sellers, I myself listen to them last. Although "M. Videos" are not bad, they understand in technology, if you ask something, they will answer quite competently.
When I wash myself. I also chose the car on the Internet, read a bunch of special magazines, asked sellers. I needed a machine with the ability to be built under the tabletop, that is, to have a vibration-free spinning and a height of 85 cm. I stopped at ASKO 6761. Now this model is not produced, there are even "cooler" models with 1800 rpm spin, my 1600 rpm. they are 6 kg. There are ready-made programs, but you can compose up to 2500 programs yourself. When I wash, I hardly use the ready-made ones, I program myself. Well, I always add extra water. She washes gorgeous, even at 30 degrees. There is a "Anti-crease" mode - 2 hours, "Super rinse" - up to 7 rinses. The control is very simple, the display is in Russian. Stainless steel tank and drum. It works silently, you can only hear it when you spin it at high speeds. But most of all I like the folding front panel. It is so convenient for loading and unloading laundry. The service life of these washing machines is 15 years. ASKO we sell with front and top loading, there are compact models with a height of 67 cm.
You can see my model of the washing machine in the photo in the gallery. Here in the magazine "Consumer" it is written in more detail about it:
TatSU
And if only the drying part of the machine is broken, maybe it only makes sense to buy the dryer? As far as I am aware, there are even those that can be put in a column - on top of each other.

A large amount of water in the machine is not a plus - it is important that the laundry is well moistened during washing. some manufacturers have 3-dimensional wetting functions.
Washing is generally done with a solution of detergent in water. With the same amount of powder, the concentration of the powder in a larger amount of water will be less.

In general, the dryer is very relevant when there is not enough space in the apartment - there is nowhere to dry, when you can't hang it on the street - there are devils in the air (this is very important at our house), when there is nowhere to put the linen between drying and ironing - I took it out and immediately ironed it (some dryers even mode are of type dry for ironing)
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TatSU, tumble dryers are the same size as full-size washers.
And having two such units is not for my apartment ((

I have already ordered - they should bring me a new typewriter with a dryer on Wednesday - Candy appeared, only 44 cm deep, model Candy CSW 105.
The final choice I had was a Kaiser (depth 55) and a Kandy. Kandy chose exactly the size.

PS and my electrolux is something
some kind of winding comes out of the machine (seen in the hole from the filter). When spinning, it rattles as if a box of nails had been scattered inside the drum. Against the background of 15 years of work of Vyatka with my mother (when it was thrown out it was still in working order) - the electrolux withstood only 7 years, of which the drying did not work for the last year
TatSU
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Against the background of 15 years of work of Vyatka with my mother (when it was thrown out it was still in working order) - the electrolux withstood only 7 years, of which the drying did not work for the last year

Well, today's realities are such that any technique is deteriorating morally faster than physically, so the manufacturer is not particularly concerned with durability. they hope that people will want to buy a new model before it breaks down; again, all sorts of cheapening of production and "hardworking Chinese" complete the picture of the world.

And I also found a button for more water from Gorenje (a friend has a machine from this manufacturer) - especially for Zubastik
🔗 - do not consider it an advertisement, just the first model that comes up with such a function
Olga @
Just today I had a washing machine repairman. Repaired my Ardo WD 1200X tumble dryer. All functions are used actively and regularly. The master soldered something on the board - that's the whole breakdown. The typewriter is 12 years old. This is the first renovation. Assembly - in Italy. In general, the master greatly praised our "Italian" and scolded the new cars, which are now being assembled, it turns out, not even in Poland or China, but in Russia.
Lika
TatSU
A large amount of water in the machine is not a plus - it is important that the laundry is well moistened during washing.
This is essential when washing woolen and delicate items. When washing things that are difficult or impossible to iron and you need to reduce / eliminate their creasing when washing, for example, jackets, coats, down jackets ...
In general, the dryer is very relevant when there is little space in the apartment - there is nowhere to dry when you can't hang it on the street
When there is a lot of space, it is also relevant. In winter, you don't really want to go to the balcony, and drying 4 sets of bedding in the bathroom is not very inspiring.
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I also look at the new Kandy, my old lady is already many years old. Then tell us your impressions of washing and management.
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scolded new cars, which nowadays are assembled, it turns out, not even in Poland or China, but in Russia.

Olga @, just machines with drying in Russia are not going. Even the Ariston Indesites do not trust the assembly of machines with dryers to Russian factories, they assemble them at home - in Italy. All our machines with dryers are imported.
Olga @
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Olga @, just machines with drying in Russia are not going. Even the Ariston Indesites do not trust the assembly of machines with dryers to Russian factories, they assemble them at home - in Italy. All our machines with dryers are imported.

I can’t know, it’s from his words, maybe he’s lying, or maybe he was talking about ordinary machines, without drying. I cannot answer for his words. I was surprised that Ardo is produced by the same company as the Aristons with the Indesites - the Merloni company, only now I noticed that it was written in the instructions and the certificate.
Rita
Just the other day, at a neighbor's, the Electrolux washing machine (also about 6-7 years old) fell apart during work. The front wall just fell out and everything else behind it.
TatSU
Quote: Lika

TatSUThis is essential when washing woolen and delicate items. When washing things that are difficult or impossible to iron and you need to reduce / eliminate their creasing when washing, for example, jackets, coats, down jackets ...

On my Bosch Max, the woolen program will spin the linen a couple of times, then it costs - and so the whole cycle - it is wetted normally without any additional water.

A friend's friend recently broke down a Daewoo with an air bubble - well, she was probably 7 years old (it seems like they don’t make them anymore) there were just the jackets and down jackets that were washed - we wore to her
There was a lot of water there - it was just praised in advertisements for pizhaki.

Quote: Lika

When there is a lot of space, it is also relevant. In winter, you don't really want to go to the balcony, and drying 4 sets of bedding in the bathroom is not very inspiring.

We have a folding dryer near the heating battery - I usually wash one set of bedding at a time and then dry it - when it dries up - I wash the next batch - either at night, or when I go to work I push the wash.
In the evening I hung it dry in the morning. True, batteries are fried well in winter with us - at the same time humidifying the air
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Quote: Olga @

I was surprised that Ardo is produced by the same company as the Aristons with the Indesites - the Merloni company, only now I noticed that it was written in the instructions and the certificate.
Olga @, then you will see each other even more if you find out that our very first, now prehistoric Vyatka automata, are the same merloni. The first Vyatka were collected as well as their own cars, so many of them have survived to this day with minimal repairs.
By the way, Stinol is also a merlon.
Quote: Rita

Just the other day, at a neighbor's, the Electrolux washing machine (also about 6-7 years old) fell apart during work. The front wall just fell out and everything else behind it.
Rita, I have the same (
Yesterday my husband turned off the washing machine. He tilted it slightly to disconnect the hose. And from there (from the inside of the machine) DETAILS began to fall out with a crash. I'm honestly shocked. And if this loss happened during the wash

Oh, I'm not waiting for my new little girl - kandy))
Olga @
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Olga @, then you will see each other even more if you find out that our very first, now prehistoric Vyatka automata, are the same merloni. The first Vyatka were collected as well as their own cars, so many of them have survived to this day with minimal repairs.
By the way, Stinol is also a merlon.

Yes, indeed, this is news to me.

Quote: Rustic stove

Yesterday my husband turned off the washing machine. He tilted it slightly to disconnect the hose. And from there (from the inside of the machine) DETAILS began to fall out with a crash.

Was it a detail? Or buttons, etc. that are stuck in the filter?
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Was it a detail? Or buttons, etc. that are stuck in the filter?

no, they weren't exactly the buttons, and definitely not from the filter))
THIS was a total of 3/4 bucket (ten liter !!!) of various heavy pieces.
Olga @
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THIS was a total of 3/4 bucket (ten liter !!!) of various heavy pieces.

I probably missed what kind of machine: Electrolux?
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I probably missed what kind of machine: Electrolux?

Yes, with drying
Olga @
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Oh, I'm not waiting for my new little girl - kandy))
With drying, of course? It seems to be German cars or am I mistaken?
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Italian too.
Olga @
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Italian too.
Not a bad machine: good functions, the number of revolutions is super (and mine has even more - 1200 (again I boast)), the main thing is that there is "wool-silk", class A is good, and the dimensions are compact (relevant for many)!
Self-taught baker
I'll get in with my 5 kopecks.
For 14 years now I have been working (both in the tail and in the mane - 2 boys and a fisherman) a machine with a dryer AEG. For all the time of work, I changed only the plastic pin on the program knob.
I use it every day.
When the children were younger - drying worked all evening - two grimy overalls from the garden ...
And so there are all the programs - wool, silk, delicacy, and everything else.
If someone chooses for himself, do not spare the money - it's worth it.
Olga @
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machine with dryer AEG.

"German"? Friends praised.
Uncle Sam
Village Stove wrote: "no, it was not exactly buttons, and certainly not from the filter Smiling))
THIS was a total of 3/4 bucket (ten-liter !!!) of various heavy pieces. "

Ballast is inserted into DOMESTIC washing machines so that they shake less (industrial washers are attached to the foundation).
Usually pigs of metallurgical slag act as ballast.
Over time, it begins to crumble into pieces.
You have collected them almost a bucket.
I have acquaintances in such a situation, completely removed the remnants of the factory ballast, attached "pancakes" from the dumbbells. And they continue to use their Vyatka-machine, from the first batch.
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Quote: Zubastik

But this question worries me - are there any models of washing machines that wash in high water, and not by the type of water saving so that the laundry is "wet"?

Nibbler, today they brought me a new typewriter, a kandy, it has an AquaPlus function.

This is my opinion. what are you talking about:

By pressing this button, the user activates a special new wash cycle for the Mixed and Faded wash programs. This is made possible by the new Sensor Activa Sensor system. This function is designed to be gentle on the fibers of the clothing fabric and is also recommended for people with sensitive skin. The laundry is washed in significantly more water and this, together with the new combination of drum rotation cycles when filling the tank with water and draining the water, will give your clothes an impeccable wash and rinse quality. The amount of water during washing increases so that the detergent dissolves completely, thereby increasing the washing efficiency of the laundry. The amount of water during rinsing also increases, ensuring that all traces of detergent are completely removed from the laundry. This washing function is designed for people with delicate and sensitive skin, for whom even the slightest amount of detergent can cause irritation or allergies. We also recommend using this function for baby clothes and delicate fabrics in general, or when washing terry fabrics whose fibers absorb more detergent. To ensure the best wash quality, this function is always activated when washing delicate and woolen fabrics.
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I also look at the new Kandy, my old lady is already many years old. Then tell us your impressions of washing and management.

I tell

I'm generally happy with the machine.

Washing - class A.
Management - no display (inconvenient).
Programs are standard, from boiling (cotton) to hand washing. Possibilities for adjusting standard programs - anti-fold, aquaplus, cold water. Personally, I miss the button that shortens the usual program (before that, I washed almost everything with short programs). There is a super short program - 32 minutes at 50 degrees.
Spinning - in my opinion, normal (it says class C, but in my opinion it is squeezed well, especially since it still dries afterwards).
Drying - by residual moisture and by time. Dries well (dried both cotton bedding and synthetic pillows).

The summary is this: a good inexpensive machine, control can be more comfortable.

Yes, by the way, its depth is still not 44 cm as stated, but taking into account all the protruding parts - about 48 cm.
Lika
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Thanks for the story.
Management - no display (inconvenient).
And at least somehow you can understand what was pressed and at what stage of the program execution?
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Thanks for the story. And at least somehow you can understand what was pressed and at what stage of the program execution?

You can estimate how much time is left until the end of the program.
There is a vertical row of orange pips, next to which it is written: 90 minutes, 60 minutes, 30 minutes, 15 minutes, stop. If the pipka burns for 60 minutes, then there are no more than 60 minutes left. But if it burns for 90 minutes, then it can be any time more than an hour.

What is pressed - you can also understand by the burning lights.

Which stage of the program is being carried out - you can only guess by the amount of foam and the remaining time.

NatalyaN
I wonder if there are machines with top loading and drying?
I started to choose, but I can't dwell on a specific model, and I also want drying? Sellers in stores sell only what is available they have.
Lika
All! My Kandy served 10 years with faith and truth and finally broke down, the amount of the belt, according to preliminary estimates, turned out to be more than half the cost of a new machine. I began to look for a replacement. I chose Kandy with drying, but in the end I bought ARDO FLO 128L, 1200 rpm, without drying and with a load of 8 kg. Dimensions a little more in depth by 4 cm. Electronic control, display, timer and exact time until the end of the wash, 19 programs. It turned out that the 8 kg load for our family is the same size. 1 wash = 2 washes in the previous machine with 5 kg load.
Boo Boo
I have a Kaiser with a dryer. A couple of months after the purchase, it became buggy. I called the Kaiser, the master rode the next day, changed something there in five minutes. Otherwise, there are no complaints.
Drying is certainly a good thing, but it just kills me that all things now have to be ironed.

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