Manna
Bought today thermopot Brand 4404b to replace the unexpectedly deceased kettle.
Thermopot Brand 4404b
I should note that the front panel has a mirror finish - fingerprints remain on it (you can't see this in the photographs on the Brand.rf website, I even thought it was matte, but ...) Let's see how it will show itself in operation ...

Thermopot in a box (True, my version lacks instructions - they forgot to put it back in the box in the pre-New Year's bustle in the office. So ... I was left without instructions)
Thermopot Brand 4404b

Removable cover
Thermopot Brand 4404b

Thermopot Brand 4404b

And this is the mechanism for fixing the cover to the body
Thermopot Brand 4404b

Thermopot Brand 4404b

Lever and water inlet
Thermopot Brand 4404b

Thermopot inside
Thermopot Brand 4404b

The bottom of the thermo pot with a rotating mechanism
Thermopot Brand 4404b

I washed the thermopot, doused it with boiling water, but did not turn it on yet - let the lid ventilate (it has the smell of new technology - the silicone gasket has absorbed the smell quite noticeably). The thermo-pot was turned on in the office for testing, it began to heat up, and it was necessary to turn it off, they began to look for a toggle switch, but it ... was not there. They turned it off by removing the plug from the socket. By the way, the instructions on the "Brand. Rf" website for this model on page 3 "Description of the thermal pot and control panel" in the picture indicate the presence of a toggle switch

Specifications
Thermopot Brand 4404b

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Elena Br
manna, congratulations on your purchase!
The instructions were amended and posted on the site. And they also made a separate line in the table of technical characteristics information about the toggle switch, or rather about its absence in this model.
Manna
Elena, thank you for your congratulations and for your help in choosing a thermopot

By the way, maybe someone else will care about it

thermopot 4404:
height 33cm
width 23.5 cm
length 32 cm

The length of the power cable is 1.4m.
sgf45
Mannochka, in the first lines, congratulations on your purchase.
Now a question. Why did you choose this particular model and not the 4504? The same should be bought instead of the old one and I am tormented by the choice.
Manna
Thank you, Allochka!
I chose this model only because I just liked it externally. 4504 differs only in volume (5L instead of 4L), the presence of a toggle switch and manual water supply (4404 does not have them).
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Mannyash, I'll try some more:
1) The declared capacity is 4 liters. This is true? Or is it a little less?
2) Do you need to unlock it with a button to pour water? That is, the child simply cannot pour hot water over himself?
Until I remembered everything. But that's not all
Manna
Quote: Ksyushk @ -Plushk @

Mannyash, I'll try some more:
1) The declared capacity is 4 liters. This is true? Or is it a little less?
2) Do you need to unlock it with a button to pour water? That is, the child simply cannot pour hot water over himself?
Until I remembered everything. But that's not all
Not, 4 and is included
Yeah, there is a lock button.
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Well, great. And in 5 liter also probably. Choy I want a new thermo-pot
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Quote: manna

I think yes

Looked more closely at the photo. Yes, that's right.
Manna, have you seen him with your own eyes? Is he also brilliant? Or matte?
I want everything .... hold me ...
Manna
Ksyu, I myself have not been to Yegoryevsky. My husband was there. But somehow he did not pay attention to 4504.
It is better if it is matte. Otherwise ... mamadaragaya ... what will he become
Patamushta on a mirror panel 4404 ... it's better not even to breathe

I don't know about the 4504, but the 4404 has blue backlighting all the time ... it doesn't make me very happy
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Quote: manna

Patamushta on a mirror panel 4404 ... it's better not even to breathe

Oh yeah. It's like the smokehouse lid. The handprints on it, too, enrage me.

Well, if I decide to buy, then we’ll find out.
Favorite
and my husband gave me a 5 liter. The surface is matt. The backlight turns off (from above), and where the water level is blue there is lit ...
Manna
Quote: Favorite

The backlight turns off (from above), and where the water level is blue, it burns ...
ABOUT! Alenka, I'm celebrating thee !!!

Yes, mnu also has blue water, and the backlight turns off from above. Here's a little blue water, mnu and not happy. Well, I'm so picky
Favorite
my children like that there is some kind of light in a dark room, it's not scary to drink water at night
Bridge
Is there a snooze timer?
Manna
there is
Bridge
Oh, Alenka, congratulations on a wonderful purchase. I must take it too.
Favorite
We have been using thermopots for a long time (the family is large, everyone loves to drink tea). My husband decided to pamper me, bought a new one (pretty, with a choice of temperatures, etc.), did not throw the old one away (let it be, we will take it with us)
Temopot must be taken! THING is necessary !!!!
Manna
Quote: Bridge

Is there a snooze timer?
According to the instructions, a delay in boiling is possible for 3, 6, 9 and 12 hours.
"Being in the" delay "mode, the thermopot stops heating the water."

Something that turned out to be not very convenient for me. It would be much more convenient if the step was 1 hour.
Here's what to do if you need a 7, 8, or 10 hour grace period?
Well, yes, well, yes, you can put it on for a shorter time, and then heating, BUT ... the thermopot beeps at the end of boiling, the signal is quite loud, which means it will wake up earlier than needed
Elena Br
Quote: Ksyushk @ -Plushk @

Looked more closely at the photo. Yes, that's right.
Manna, have you seen him with your own eyes? Is he also brilliant? Or matte?
I want everything .... hold me ...
The case of the thermo pot model 4504 is matte.

Quote: manna

According to the instructions, a delay in boiling is possible for 3, 6, 9 and 12 hours.
"Being in the" delay "mode, the thermopot stops heating the water."
Something that turned out to be not very convenient for me. It would be much more convenient if the step was 1 hour.
Here's what to do if you need a 7, 8, or 10 hour grace period?
Well, yes, well, yes, you can put it on for a shorter time, and then heating, BUT ... the thermopot beeps at the end of boiling, the signal is quite loud, which means it will wake up earlier than needed
I completely agree with you. If it becomes possible to change the delay time in 1 hour increments, we will definitely do it.

Manna
Yesterday I turned on Boiling, then I had to turn it off. I clicked on "Cancel", but there was no cancellation. The temperature reached 100 ° C, boiling continued. Then I clicked on "Temperature selection", and only after that boiling was turned off. The device was connected to the network for a day by that time. I was alarmed by the fact that they turned on "Boiling", but it was impossible to cancel it.

Boiling has not been canceled again today. At the same time, it did not work to turn it off by clicking on "Temperature selection". Only with a delay it turned out to be turned off. What to do then? I need it to maintain the desired temperature, and not "hang" in anticipation of boiling in n-th number of hours.

The water in the thermal pot is already boiled. I don't need to boil it again, but 85 ° C is not enough, and 98 ° C is already a lot. I need 90 ° C. For this you have to turn on "Boiling". And it does not turn off for the second morning. What to do?

I also encountered an uncomfortable moment: if you increase the heating temperature (i.e., for example, it was 60 ° C, in fact, you increase it to 85 ° C), then the thermo-pot turns on boiling up to 100 ° C. And why doesn't it shut down at 85 ° C? At the same time, it is no longer possible to cancel boiling.

The kettle that I covered was able to heat the water to any temperature I needed, and it did not need to boil water every time, and kept the water heated. He made me very happy until he ordered me to live long.

And with a thermopot for the third day I can not make friends in any way

Save some realtiesThermopot Brand 4404b
Manna
This is how the thermopot lights the water in blue

Thermopot Brand 4404b
Elena Bo
Boiling is not canceled in Panasonic, only by lowering the temperature. And if the temperature is high (98 degrees), then boiling is repeated very often, since the thermopot always maintains this temperature. If the temperature is set lower, then there is no constant boiling to maintain the temperature. Before that, Vitek was and worked the same way. It's just that when buying, you need to pay attention to the temperature, since it is different for different models.
Manna
No, Lenochka, you did not understand me. I didn't mean constant boiling. Well, here's an example ... The temperature is 60 ° C. I set it to 85 ° C. And he begins to boil water to 100 ° C, and only then lowers it to 85 ° C and maintains this temperature. But I don't need 100 ° C, I needed 85 ° C. And it is no longer possible to cancel this boiling (neither by lowering the temperature, nor canceling it, only by delaying it is possible for the time of delay). I don't know if I explained clearly this time
Elena Bo
Yes, this is how all thermopots work. At least mine all worked like that. But ... one had a temperature of 90 degrees, and now only 85 after 98. At first the water seemed cold, then it got used to it. And the husband is the very thing, he does not like hot things. And that's why I never use deferral. It's easier for me when there is always one temperature.
Manna
Quote: Elena Bo

Yes, this is how all thermopots work.
What a pity It is me, so I spoiled myself with my teapot
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
I have two temperatures in Redmond: 85 and 98 degrees. If it was 85, and switch to 98, it also starts to boil. But up to 100 degrees - I don’t know, I didn’t measure it, and it’s not essential. But then the heating is no longer turned on, but only the temperature is maintained, at least for several hours, at least for several days, it has been checked.
Manna
Quote: Elena Bo

I never use delay. It's easier for me when there is always one temperature.
It's more difficult with us: I drink water not hotter than 60 ° C (this temperature stands as constant), and my husband needs 90 ° C
Well I say, we spoiled
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Well, Manna, then you put two thermo pots and everyone enjoy their temperature.
Manna
Ksyu, do you have 60 ° C in Redmond?
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Nope, no, 85 and 98 current.
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Manna, but I fucked you off and didn't take it dearly. Yes 65 *. I didn't know. After turning it off, it automatically turns on at 85 *, and I only raised it to 98 *. 65 * never included.
Manna
Xuyuyuyu! And try to set it to 65 ° C, and when the temperature drops to 65 ° C, set it to 85 ° C. What will he do? Boil water or just heat it up?
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Mannyash, well, I came, so now (how long has it passed that time? a little over three hours, right?) translated to 85g. - and in response, silence. Translated to 98g - the identity is silent, only shines blue. Or it has not cooled down to 65 yet, then to warm up, then what else. Consider the experiment unsuccessful? Yes?
Manna
And who's so? Well, it's a straightforward conspiracy of thermopots
And before it was heated, if it was rearranged from 85 ° C to 98 ° C?
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
ManI do not know These are the cross. + I either keep it at 85 all the time, or as I fill it, I'll stick it at 98, that's it. Excuse me!
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
It seems to me that he did not have time to cool down to 65. Tea was just drunk, it seemed hot, but not 98 of course. I don't promise tomorrow, but the day after tomorrow I'll hold the night at 65, and in the morning I'll see how he will behave.
Manna
Today, the thermopot made us a New Year's gift - we turned it on in the morning for boiling to warm up some water, and then canceled it, and he turned off boiling
Vichka
Quote: manna

Vichka, thank you dear
I am very pleased with this thermopot because it shows the current water temperature
And here I am facing a choice, 4404 or 4504?
Manna
Vichka, so I wrote about ethnicities:
Quote: manna

4504 differs only in volume (5 liters instead of 4 liters), the presence of a toggle switch and manual water supply (4404 does not have them).
Also, the 4504 has a matte surface, and the 4404 has a glossy and even mirrored front panel.
They differ in size only in height.

4404:
height 33cm
width 23.5 cm
length 32 cm

4504:
height 40cm
width 23 cm
length 31 cm
Vichka
Quote: manna

Vichka, so I wrote about ethnicities: Also, the 4504 has a matte surface, and the 4404 has a glossy and even mirrored surface on the front panel.
They differ in size only in height.
Mannochka, Thank you!
To me teapot please explain what gives presence of a toggle switch
and what is the need for manual water supply? I have no idea about the work of Termopot.
Manna
Quote: VS NIKA

what gives presence of a toggle switch
and what is the need for manual water supply?
I personally don't need a toggle switch, it allows you to turn off the thermo-pot.If the thermopot is included in the network, then it either maintains the temperature, or boils, or on a delay in boiling. And the toggle switch allows you to turn it off.
Manual water supply is relevant if there is no electricity (if it was turned off, or a thermopot is used as a thermos in nature)
Vichka
Quote: manna

I personally don't need a toggle switch, it allows you to turn off the thermo-pot. If the thermopot is included in the network, then it either maintains the temperature, or boils, or on a delay in boiling. And the toggle switch allows you to turn it off.
Manual water supply is relevant if there is no electricity (if it was turned off, or a thermopot is used as a thermos in nature)
Mannochka, explain to me then, how is water supplied with the help of electricity?
Something dark forest for me ....
Manna
You press the button, and the pump pumps up water. And if in a manual way, then you squeeze with a manual pump.
Vichka
Quote: manna

You press the button, and the pump pumps up water. And if by hand, then you press with a manual pump.
Mannochka, I have something in general, some kind of space ... If the pump ..., then it should be connected to the water supply? And how is that are you squeezing? physically what does it look like?
Vichka
For some reason in the subject Multicooker Mystery MCM-5014/5015 can't write an answer?
Mannochka, did the bowl darken somehow immediately or gradually?
I was going to go shopping for a day ... now I'll think about it ...
Manna
Why plumbing? You pour water into the thermopot, like into a kettle. Drink some water, then the required temperature is maintained. If the water supply is electric, then you simply press the button and hold it as long as it takes to get some water into the mug. And if there is a manual pump, then you need to press the valve, perhaps several times (you did not have such a thermos with a pump - the valve is on top, you press it and water flows through the spout)

You cannot write there, because you need to correct your message there. Because of him, the whole form moved apart.
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
MannaWell, I was experimenting with my Redmond. Means in the night I set the temperature to 65about and lay down to sleep. After 8 hours, I checked the temperature for interest - 55about has come. Switched directly to 98about, waited a few minutes - nothing happened. That is, he did not even begin to boil. Since my family began to pull up to the kitchen, I had to manually turn on boiling, since boiling water was needed. Conclusion: either something is wrong with my thermopot or something is wrong with my head. I will find an instruction, read what she says on this subject.
Mannyash, and Brand starts to boil right away, right?
sgf45
Ksyusha, I don't know how Brand works, but Panasonic immediately turns on for heating if the temperature is changed to a higher one. Heats up to a boil and then cools down to the set temperature.
Manna
Yes Yes, Xun, for Brand everything happens the same as for Panasonic
By the way, we still managed to make friends with the thermopot - when you need to heat up the water without boiling, we turn on boiling, turning it off when the temperature we need reaches (and it turns off !!!) Here it is, plus the fact that it is possible to see the current water temperature.

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