The multicooker is not enough. What to buy to help her?

The multicooker is probably the most demanded assistant in the kitchen, but unfortunately, it is already beginning to fail little by little.
I came to the conclusion that she needed an assistant. Buying a second multicooker is somehow not interesting, but I think my family will not understand me, but if something similar ...
For example, something like an electric frying pan or something else there, the main thing is that there are programs ... I put it all down and left and she cooks and turns off herself.

I know there are electric frying pans and a tactful little thing like masier-pilaf, but there, as I understand it, you just adjust the temperature and stand over this frying pan, in short, it does not cook and does not turn off.

Maybe you can advise something.

Now I want an airfryer. I think this is just for your question

There was a time I wanted it, and then in Temka about the airfryer I read that if there is a good oven, it’s just a similar device ... then I calmed down with desire, and after I saw its size in the store I completely reluctantly (it is too big to say the least)
Now, if only the master pilaf was finalized, I would gladly get such a thing

maybe someone has seen heard has such a device?

Girls, I'm not in the subject, but we have a forum about airfryer and master pilaf and other "assistants" of information is full, there you can continue, and so, one and that de in-fa will be in several topics, and confuse yourself and others will not find

I mean, maybe someone can offer something completely new

buy a rice cooker or slow cooker, similarly, but from a different company. Compact.

I mean, maybe someone can offer something completely new

Well, probably then the thermomix.

(y) Yeah .... I read about this thing. The thing, of course, is great, but the price has found that it costs 1280 euros.

I think that people who are able to spend that kind of money on one device on the forums do not graze. Here everything is more like those who want to spend money wisely.

Maybe there is still some kind of device? Only for less money

and what do you want to cook in the appliance?

Probably not in the subject, because not an assistant, but assistants.



But the question of what else to buy, torments me too

It seems to me that the safety net of the multicooker is the pressure cooker. I would not dare to leave her alone, but ... if the multicooker suddenly starts to fail, then the pressure cooker is just right!

Can I leave the airfryer alone?
At night, for example, as a slow cooker.
I really like the opportunity to cook in it in clay pots. Also, in theory, everything should languish / stew, as in a multicooker

I didn’t leave him at night. Somehow there was no need for this. It does not keep on heating like a multicooker. Everything in it will cool down until morning. I don't cook for a very long time. I make the chicken a maximum of 1.5 hours, depending on the weight, while turning it over once. The longest time in the recipe book is for mushroom drying - from 120 min. If you set it to 60 minutes, it will turn off, the fan will work for a few more minutes and that's it.

Taki bought an airfryer, but still I still use cartoons more ... I still won't adapt to AG ... either I won't finish it, then I'll overcook it

And I strictly follow the direction of the slow cooker.

In general, our paranoia can be divided into three groups:

1. Useful - slow cooker, slow cooker, jam maker, yoghurt maker, juicer ...
2. Conditionally useful - deep fryer, airfryer, pressure cooker, waffle maker, chocolate maker, ice cream maker, pancake maker ...
3. Cool - fondue, raclette, smokehouse and ...and ... a separator !!!

The list I sketched is ooooooooooo very controversial, but ... we can argue! In a dispute, truth is born, and I'm not afraid to make mistakes!

The list I sketched is ooooooooooo very controversial, but ... we can argue! In a dispute, truth is born, and I'm not afraid to make mistakes!

Really controversial, since everyone has their own tasks and to solve them, each housewife uses what she considers optimal for herself. Knowing the tastes of my family, I would never put a slow cooker and a slow cooker on the same row for myself. I don’t want to buy a slow cooker and don’t plan to. As well as the airfryer and jam maker. It turns out that I would have got a completely different list in three groups. But I would not argue and prove something in this regard to others, because I do not know either their way of life, or their priorities in food ... wrote.

[Anastasia]

Anastasia!
Maybe you should share the list too? For discussion? I'm not saying that the slow cooker and the multicooker are on the same shelf, just next to ...

Well, firstly, I have already uploaded it, here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=137.0 , and secondly, for myself, I do not consider the discussion useful, because anyway no one knows like me, what exactly I need or don’t need in the end. Well, somehow I look at it. But this is just my opinion, I do not impose on anyone, please understand correctly!

1. Useful - slow cooker, slow cooker, jam maker, yoghurt maker, juicer ...

most importantly, they forgot the bread maker (I have it and the jam maker). and the juicer for many is exclusively a seasonal worker for harvesting. they are all heavy and it is inconvenient to wash them.

and the juicer for many is exclusively a seasonal worker for harvesting. they are all heavy and it is inconvenient to wash them.

And you read our topic about juicers and you will want Panasonic, which is easy to clean and squeezes out super, and is convenient and compact for storage!

here! here it is the key word - storage! Unfortunately, what is in the storage box, in my case, gets and uses very rarely. The kitchen is very small, so if something is in the cabinet, then in order to get IT out of the cabinet, you must first get from there, for example, a bag of dried fruits, a jar of jam, a bag of crackers and a bunch of such rubbish for which there is no permanent storage place.
in general, until you get it - you will forget to do what you wanted.

Cool probably lives for those who have a large kitchen You can build something like a conveyor belt. microwave (defrost) - sink - vegetable peeler - food processor - marinator - cartoon \ airfryer \ pressure cooker - refrigerator - dishwasher.

And on the other side of the sink - a juicer - a blender - a bar - an oven, for example.

generally super

so I'll wait for the purchase of an apartment from a large kitchen, or when they invent a combine with the functions of cleaning, grating, shredding and juicer in 1 device and so that the attachments do not change. so that 1 is universal.
It’s not clear, is it really so difficult to invent?

Cool probably lives for those who have a large kitchen You can build something like a conveyor belt. microwave (defrost) - sink - vegetable peeler - food processor - marinator - cartoon \ airfryer \ pressure cooker - refrigerator - dishwasher.

And on the other side of the sink - a juicer - blender - bar - oven, for example.

generally super

Yes, I don’t argue, we live well, although you can’t say that it’s very big, but 11 meters will be typed and therefore the meaning of the word storage is a little different for me, something that really needs to be kept close at hand, on desktops. Including a juicer - I have it in high esteem and running - their juices are very useful for health, and since a good device is bought, it should be used, and not stand in a cabinet.
It is a pity that not everyone is so lucky! Our kitchens are a disaster - you can immediately see that they were designed by men far from the household!

so I'll wait for the purchase of an apartment from a large kitchen, or when they invent a combine with the functions of cleaning, grating, shredding and juicer in 1 device and so that the attachments do not change. so that 1 is universal.
It’s not clear, is it really so difficult to invent?

Why is it difficult - Panasonic had such a combine - and a full-fledged juicer, a meat grinder, and a combine in one person - in my opinion, they stopped producing it. A pity very much !!!

Yes, I don’t argue, we live well, although you can’t say that it’s very big, but 11 meters will be typed and therefore the meaning of the word storage is a little different for me, something that really needs to be kept close at hand, on desktops. Including a juicer - I have it in high esteem and running - their juices are very useful for health, and since a good device is bought, it should be used, and not stand in a cabinet.
It is a pity that not everyone is so lucky! Our kitchens are a disaster - you can immediately see that they were designed by men far from the household!

here, we used to rent an apartment with a kitchen of 14 square meters. that's when I started to get interested in all kinds of kitchen helpers. Then I bought a bread maker, a coffee maker, a citrus juicer (electric).
And now only a bread maker is in the kitchen. and the coffee maker and juicer are gathering dust in the cupboard. I want to put the cartoon right on the stove. nowhere else. or don't buy at all

put on the stove! .. I myself have long thought of fucking 4 comforts in life \ I have them already 5 now \, all equally all at the same time I have not used any time in my life, at most two. I will have my own kitchen, I am seriously thinking about a board with two or three comforts - so there is more space for working surfaces.

(y) Yeah .... I read about this thing. The thing, of course, is great, but the price has found that it costs 1280 euros.

Maybe there is still some kind of device? Only for less money

Thermomix replaces more than 20 kitchen appliances. And if you add up the cost of all devices, then the amount is much more than the cost of the thermomix.
I believe that the thermomix is ​​needed by a young family that does not yet have any household appliances.
For a multicooker, a good helper is the Unit or LendLife electric pressure cooker, you can leave it alone, it also has programs like MB.
I myself am eager to buy a pressure cooker as an assistant, but unfortunately we do not have them in our city

2. Conditionally useful - deep fryer, airfryer, pressure cooker, waffle maker, chocolate maker, ice cream maker, pancake maker ...

Hairpin, why do you refer to the pressure cooker as conditionally useful ?? Explain

Hairpin, why do you refer to the pressure cooker as conditionally useful ?? Explain

I just take the position that cooking under pressure kills more vitamins and nutrients in it than classical cooking. But I think the languor mode is the most useful. IMHO.

Actually, this is a moot point. Not everyone shares my point of view. I think you will surely find the opposite point of view. That's why she is pluralism !!!

I would also classify the pressure cooker as conditionally useful. I rarely cook in it, but it takes up a lot of space. It's great to cook beets in it, of course, and the broth is quick. But since I rarely boil beets, and I don’t boil broths at all, so it’s practically idle.

[Boo Boo]

Boo Boo, I just want to take a pressure cooker to quickly cook meat or soup or soup.
And I cook beets in MV.
I saw a master class here on how to cook vegetables for vinigrette in MV, now that's the only way I'm doing it.

Soup in a slow cooker is more convenient for me to cook. And here is the chicken for salad in a pressure cooker.
Can you share a reference to the master class?

[Boo Boo]

Boo Boo
Unfortunately, I can't insert links into the message

Yes, not necessarily active, I will insert it myself. Well, or where to find a detailed path.

[Boo Boo]

Boo Boo, something I can not find the link, as I will definitely throw.But the bottom line is that: vegetables (potatoes, carrots, beets) are cut into cubes and stacked in piles in a steaming bowl, steaming mode is 20 minutes.
Then all the ingredients are mixed + cucumbers + cabbage + onions.

I just take the position that cooking under pressure kills more vitamins and nutrients in it than classical cooking. But I think the languor mode is the most useful. IMHO.

I found on the internet about cooking under pressure

High pressure steam cooking is the most dietary method of cooking food. High pressure promotes the release of natural juices from the product, allowing you to cook food at high temperatures in your own juice. High pressure cooking allows you to "repair" damaged tissue in products that have been vacuum packed or previously frozen.

Steam
Superheated steam generated at high pressure and elevated temperatures allows you to cook 3 to 10 times faster. High-temperature steam treatment allows you to cook without salt, with a minimum amount of oil, sugar, flavorings and flavor enhancers, less aging and drying out while maintaining fresh taste.

Nutrients
Cooking under pressure preserves all the nutritional elements of the food. Since food is cooked in an airless environment and very quickly, the minimum amount of vitamins, liquids, minerals, salts is digested during the boiling process.

For example, I really enjoy using the pressure cooker. Since April I have been using it all the time - so convenient, fast and delicious. Especially helps out after work. After dinner, I laid down the necessary products for the dish, closed the lid, turned it on, and while we went for an evening walk or did some other work, EVERYTHING is already ready. The next day, dinner is already there and no need to stand at the stove !!! Then I just put the pressure cooker in the closet until next time and no hassle !!!

Still, I think that a slow cooker saves time better ... It takes a long time for a pressure cooker to build up pressure, then release it ... I don't think it's right to wrap a cold towel around, so I'm waiting for the pressure to drop by itself.

[Anastasia]

Really controversial, since everyone has their own tasks and to solve them, each housewife uses what she considers optimal for herself. Knowing the tastes of my family, I would never put a slow cooker and a slow cooker on the same row for myself. I don’t want to buy a slow cooker and don’t plan to. As well as the airfryer and jam maker. It turns out that I would have got a completely different list in three groups. But I would not argue and prove something in this regard to others, because I do not know either their way of life, or their priorities in food ... wrote.

And now again, for the umpteenth time, I'm ready to subscribe to every word Anastasia! I adhere to absolutely the same point of view. And the pressure cooker would definitely be in the first list and in the first place. Hairpin, you say a moot point? Is it just your assumption that something is being destroyed there under pressure? Or is it confirmed by something? Because when I bought a pressure cooker many years ago, I just read many conclusions of nutritional scientists that it is in this case that the maximum number of nutrients and vitamins is preserved. And it is with prolonged languor that, alas, they completely collapse. ... And why can't you leave her? Maybe the old, Soviet ones were not reliable enough. Although that has served me for many years without a gap. And I'm not even talking about modern ones, the degree of security is great. Another thing is that in half an hour until the dish is cooked, you won't have time to go anywhere, because it remains heated. Oh, well, that's all, otherwise my praise of the pressure cooker will be transferred to the topic about her.

[Hairpin]

Hairpin How much time does it take for you to relieve the pressure?

[Spark]

Spark! With my 6.5 liters ... about half an hour.

Dopplet
Lately, many people are fond of cooking food under pressure, in pressure cookers. But no matter how desirable such cooking is from the point of view of softening meat, it must be remembered that it always leads to a change in the biological value of the protein. Biological assimilation of such meat is greatly hampered, and this, in turn, adversely affects health. The meat that is tender "by the tooth" turns out to be far from tender in relation to the stomach.

Many accolades have been given by pressure cooker manufacturers.

Dopplet! The fact that cooking in a pressure cooker is less useful than in a slow cooker or slow cooker is my opinion. I fully admit the thought that I am wrong. And on the Internet you can find both for and against ... Besides, I also use it ... So I don't want to argue ...

SORRY FOR RETREATING ..
I also want to say about the pressure cooker, cooking under pressure allows you to preserve a maximum of natural (not changed by long cooking) substances in products.
Well, Pokhlebkin (from the link) looked at it from a different position, now the trends are as follows: products are recommended to be consumed in the most natural form from the point of view of their processing, and the difficulty in assimilation is no longer considered as "-". Take, for example, the attitude towards bread made from refined premium flour. In those days, he was considered the most useful.

If we take fashion trends over the past half century, then what was not considered useful ... My older generation remembers when it was recommended to fry in butter, and considered it to be more useful than vegetable oil. And the vegetable was recommended to be removed from the diet ...
And boiling water? They admitted that it is necessary to boil for at least 10 minutes, then that it should not be brought to a boil at all ... I remember when it was broadcast on TV that boiling eggs is harmful. You just need to put in boiling water, but not boil ... Well, there were a lot of things.
Therefore, I realized that the cooking process is a dark matter. It is impossible to take into account the totality of all factors, and it is biased to advertise the result of final actions only with partial initial data. Hence the shyness from "in no case" to "necessarily". Some took into account factors from the first to the fifteenth and made a conclusion. And others - from 100 to 115 and got the absolutely opposite ... And if they took into account from 50 to 65 ...
In this case, experimental data are much more reliable, but they are generally unattainable.

[Hairpin]

Hairpin
I completely agree with you!
Each person has a different attitude towards cooking. A person reads a bunch of information but chooses what is closer to him.
Hairpin Thank you for your feedback on this pressure cooker.

Not being the owner of a pressure cooker, from everything I read, I concluded that this device only saves time. Considering that in the same slow cooker you can get a different, excellent taste, then I would choose a slow cooker, which I actually did, proceeding from the fact that I will get a varied taste at least, that I will not load the holiday by transferring from one dish to the tableware that I will use my rather large set of kitchen utensils without fear of scratching or breaking the surface of the dish. It is my choice. Which one saves time device? I don’t know, because such an opinion requires experience with both DVA and TFR, but I say it again: there is no TFR.
As an assistant, I would choose for myself (without having anything, suppose)
1.Berner graters
2.multi cooker
3. a food processor, for example a Meat grinder (Food processor) Gamma –7 01-1 or other (equipment at the time of choice) I have a meat grinder, although there is also a separate device for meat
4.Steamer
5.bread maker
6.slow cooker
Unfortunately, it didn't work out with the chocolate maker. all the defective ones came across, but it's a pity ...

[Shurshun]

Shurshun! Let me tell you a secret about the slow cooker ... Looks like you need two! Small and large. I don't want a small one because a duck won't fit, but a big one because we don't sculpt ducks and rabbits every day!

Yeah, but if there is not enough space in the kitchen, then you can and only get by with a little, a duck and a rabbit cut into 4 parts will perfectly fit into it
We are not so rich that we would buy electrical appliances separately for large meals separately for small portions

You can't cut a pork knuckle too much ... More precisely, it will no longer be a pork knuckle ... But devices for the holidays can easily be kept in the room on the closet. I can't even see them there.

[Shurshun]

Shurshun! Let me tell you a secret about the slow cooker ... Looks like you need two! Small and large. I don't want a small one because a duck won't fit, but a big one because we don't sculpt ducks and rabbits every day!

Katyusha, it makes no sense, IMHO in two, since I am for a variety of devices, I already understood this from experience, and having in particular a cartoon and a slow cooker I manage to do everything and get an excellent result. Give the facts about the desire to have two DVs. Why two, in your opinion?

After a lot of time, a slow cooker was bought to help the multicooker, a second multicooker and a grill, now I can answer myself, more often of the assistants I personally use an airfryer, of course, everything is in use from time to time, but AH somehow more often

Based on my experience, I will say that the Pressure Cooker saves time, and how !!! even if she picks up and lets off steam for a few minutes. I don't use a wet towel to let off steam (if I'm in a hurry), I just slowly release the pressure and that's it !! I mainly use the pressure cooker when I need to cook something quickly. Sometimes it happens like this: you come home and think that something will stir up quickly, with a slow cooker this will not work, you need to think in advance what will be for dinner, for example.