Grater Burner (2)

About 2, I was joking, of course. Although some bought.

It's almost about me. I feel that "there was not a penny, yes, suddenly, altyn!" I'll be torn, I'll be torn and buy both. My husband will kill me for sure. He'll have to promise heels of wobblers.

hrushka, I also chose Trend or I will take a long time. And I chose Trend + and bought any attachments, I didn't like Prima, and the color was only white.

And what did Prima dislike besides color?

It's almost about me. I feel that "there was not a penny, yes, suddenly, altyn!" I'll be torn, I'll be torn and buy both. My husband will kill me for sure. He'll have to promise heels of wobblers.

If it was summer now (I have seasonal earnings), I would have ordered more, probably.

I’ll take the girls, otherwise this grater already got me in a dream, now I’ll grind everything in reality, I said How to wait now: girl_in_dreams: Thank you all again for your help, but in the meantime, in household gloves, something to buy with chain mail

Maybe someone knows how the Rocko Design Line differs from the Rocko Powerline apart from the price? maybe thick?

I’ll take the girls, otherwise this grater already got me in a dream, now I’ll grind everything in reality, I said How to wait now: girl_in_dreams: Thank you all again for your help, but in the meantime, in household gloves, something to buy with chain mail

This is correct, if you are already dreaming, you need to order. And you do not need gloves, you will use the holder, everything will be fine, it is not so scary.

[makabusha]

Girls, due to the fact that additional people wishing to order from Germany in a large volume poured in, I postpone the shipment of the order until the weekend, but this will be the final deadline. And then I already redid the order plate several times, trying to distribute the costs of paying the intermediary and delivery, extra work. So by Saturday morning, everyone had final wishes.

makabusha, thank you very much. Mom comes to me tomorrow, maybe she wants something too .. So on Saturday morning (even Friday night) I will confirm the order again. Thank you


Girls, and I found another unconditional advantage of Berner over harvesters. Onion rings !!! Today I cut it for the herring. This is something.
Of course, for the sake of one onion, it is generally inappropriate to dirty the combine. And he will not give such a result, because the whole bulb does not fit anywhere. Well, maybe just a very small onion. ) And here any diameter is essentially possible .. in seconds ..

Maybe someone knows how the Rocko Design Line differs from the Rocko Powerline apart from the price? maybe thick?

Roko Powerline is a grater of the Prima set, that is, it fits on an oval vessel and, accordingly, will not work for a classic vessel. Roko Design Line is a set of Trend graters, it fits all vessels. It's just that Rocko Powerline, as it seems to me, is recently developed, and its design is also more interesting.

This is correct, if you are already dreaming, you need to order. And you do not need gloves, you will use the holder, everything will be fine, it is not so scary.

Scary, scary. Better to intimidate newcomers, I realized by myself.
Girls, if I had not read your warnings about the holder, I would have already walked without fingers. Especially scary, in my opinion, are inserts with knives. It is very dangerous there without a holder. I rubbed raw beets, so it ends SO FAST. It's just abnormally fast. The holder is already poked .. although I was careful. And so it would not be the scratches on the holder, but an additional portion of meat for the borschik

[set]

Roko Powerline is a grater of the Prima set, that is, it fits on an oval vessel and, accordingly, will not work for a classic vessel. Roko Design Line is a set of Trend graters, it fits all vessels. It's just that Rocko Powerline, as it seems to me, is recently developed, and its design is also more interesting.

That is, if you do not take the sudokus, then the same. set

[Seth]

Roko Powerline is a grater of the Prima set, that is, it fits on an oval vessel and, accordingly, will not work for a classic vessel. And Roko Powerline is a set of Trend graters, it fits all vessels. It's just that Rocko Powerline, as it seems to me, is recently developed, and its design is also more interesting.

Seth, write everything correctly: Roco Powerline is in the Prima case, and Roco Powerline is in the Trend case. Only the first and the second will stand on both vessels, no difference. This Classic does not fit on the VIP court, it is Primovsky, oval.

Girls-power users, orient, pliiz, newbie in graters. I am somehow lagging behind the culinary NTP progress. What kind of Bern device is needed if: you want to use it as a regular grater, for grating potatoes with long rectangular slices, and cubes of both boiled and raw vegetables and fruits? Is it generally possible with the devices in question?

Girls-power users, orient, pliiz, newbie in graters. I am somehow lagging behind the culinary NTP progress. What kind of Bern device is needed if: you want to use it as a regular grater, for grating potatoes with long rectangular slices, and cubes of both boiled and raw vegetables and fruits? Is it generally possible with the devices in question?

Boiled cubes are for cube cutters. In the Berner holder, boiled vegetables do not fix well: they either fly off, or generally crumble.
Berner is intended mainly for cutting raw vegetables, nyser-like cube cutters are more for boiled ones - they become dull pretty quickly on raw ones.
Berner can be either Trend or Prima - both are great vegetable cutters. That's right: by and large it is cutting, not grating. We call them graters out of habit. Although Berner also has several types of graters, they are not included in the main kit, they must be purchased separately.

[Seth]

Seth, write everything correctly: Roco Powerline is in the Prima case, and Roco Powerline is in the Trend case. Only the first and the second will stand on both vessels, no difference. This Classic does not fit on the VIP court, it is Primovsky, oval.

yes, that's right, I'm a little confused. And so, I believe that otherwise these graters are the same

otherwise, these graters are the same

Quite right.

Boiled cubes are for cube cutters. In the Berner holder, boiled vegetables do not fix well: they either fly off, or generally crumble.
Berner is intended mainly for cutting raw vegetables, nyser-like cube cutters are more for boiled ones - they become dull pretty quickly on raw ones.
Berner can be either Trend or Prima - both are great vegetable cutters. That's right: by and large it is cutting, not grating. We call them graters out of habit. Although Berner also has several types of graters, they are not included in the main kit, they must be purchased separately.

My head brightened, thanks for the clarification. Blades scare me, how to protect my hands both during friction and when washing the device? Hands of "danger"?

My head brightened, thanks for the clarification. Blades scare me, how to protect my hands both during friction and when washing the device? Hands of "danger"?

If you use the fruit holder, your hands will be safe. And he, this fruit-holder, is very comfortable, immediately falls into the hand. I had experience with two other graters, so those fruit holders were just awful.
During washing, again, nothing threatens your hands, because there is nothing to wash there, it is enough to put the grater under the running water. The main thing is to wash it immediately after work, not to let it dry out.
Unless in the case of slicing cheese and sausages (which is also possible and cut wonderfully), you will have to rinse the vegetable cutter with a brush and detergent, so this is also easy and safe.

and when washing the device? Hands of "danger"?

We take a little scribble on the handle and under the stream of water we shove it over the blades and whatever, and nothing is done to this brush

Duc not everything can be shoved into the fruit holder, as I cut myself when I was cutting the Peking, now I only cut it with gloves, or on the carli.

By the way, have you seen on the German website in the section of individual graters there is a waffle of type XXL size? I understand that cutting with gratings and waves is just thicker there?

I am still tormented by the thought, if the official German Berner does not sell the Classics, then where do the sellers in Ukraine get them from? Really old stocks? Did they buy vegetable cutters a ton before?

[Sandy]

We take a little scribble on the handle and under the stream of water we shove it over the blades and whatever, and nothing is done to this brush

The best brush is a toothbrush

Sandy, you can "shove" everything into the fruit holder, even a tiny radish. And on Carly without a holder, you can also make striped fingers and a salad with marigolds.

[Sandy]

The best brush is a toothbrush

Sandy, you can "shove" everything into the fruit holder, even a tiny radish. And on Carly without a holder, you can also make striped fingers and a salad with marigolds.

I cut the Chinese cabbage into four parts and it just disintegrates in the holder, have you tried it? I haven't cut it on Carly yet, there the cabbage does not slide on the blades as much as on straight knives. The girls advised to fasten it with an elastic band, but still it is not convenient with the holder, and of course there are no problems with the radish, I put it on the pins and go.

I am still tormented by the thought, if the official German Berner does not sell the Classics, then where do the sellers in Ukraine get them from? Really old stocks? Did they buy vegetable cutters a ton before?

I just think that the German site sells only to the Germans, and for them, as we knew Berner before, the Classic is already the last century and is not in demand. So they don't offer it to theirs. Possibly produced only for Eastern Europe. Or maybe some plant bought a license from them in Russia and makes them secretly. Secret - I mean from us, consumers, otherwise no one will take if they find out for sure that it is not really Germany.

I cut the Chinese cabbage into four parts and it just disintegrates in the holder, have you tried it? I haven't cut it on Carly yet, there the cabbage does not slide on the blades as much as on straight knives. The girls advised to fasten it with an elastic band, but still it is not convenient with the holder, and of course there are no problems with the radish, I put it on the pins and go.

And I went even further! Now my husband is cutting cabbage! With or without a holder - I don't know. I say - look, it is very sharp, and - I leave the kitchen. I come back - the truncated is ready, the husband is intact, the cabbage is already put into the jars on salting.

I cut the Chinese cabbage into four parts and it just disintegrates in the holder, have you tried it?

I've been trying for 10 years, but I don't cut ... but I cut.

I haven't cut it on Carly yet, there the cabbage does not slide on the blades as much as on straight knives. The girls advised to fasten it with an elastic band, but still it is not convenient with the holder, and of course there are no problems with the radish, I put it on the pins and go.

And why did the Germans write on this grater "it is recommended to use a fruit holder"

I've been trying for 10 years, but I don't cut ... but I cut.
And why did the Germans write on this grater "it is recommended to use a fruit holder"

That's exactly what is recommended, but there you cut yourself to blame. So my hands are crooked once I can’t put a quarter of Peking (I don’t need it at once) into the fruit holder

Possibly produced only for Eastern Europe. Or maybe some plant bought a license from them in Russia and makes them secretly.Secret - I mean from us, consumers, otherwise no one will take if they find out for sure that it is not really Germany.

And there is, and this is not an assumption... Grew up. the plant bought not the current license, but the production line of the Classic itself. And since then there have been complaints. That is why the current Classic and the Classic of the 90s are two big differences. Or rather, two different vegetable cutters.

And I went even further! Now my husband is cutting cabbage! With or without a holder - I don't know. I say - look, it is very sharp, and - I leave the kitchen. I come back - the truncated is ready, the husband is intact, the cabbage is already put into the jars on salting.

Happy and mine only knows how to crack

makabusha, I won't say about German, but in Moscow there is a Classic in their official store. Here, from their website, how fake graters can be distinguished from branded

but the Moscow store also takes them somewhere?)))))
I don’t think the Moscow official store selling Berner is a German company. most likely an ordinary Russian company, registered, for example, as an LLC, and it has a contract for the supply of vegetable cutters and graters on exceptional terms, such as Berner solemnly vowed not to supply these vegetable cutters and graters to anyone else in Russia.

I think they nevertheless correctly wrote above that they can do the classics, but they simply do not put it on the German market, they have both Trend and PRIMA at an affordable price for the Germans. They buy the Classics from us only because our prices for Trend and Primune are commensurate with the incomes of the majority of the population.

Girls, I read somewhere that the Oryol plant RADAR produces a copy of the CLASSIC model vegetable cutter. Maybe they lie of course

Girls, on a purchase from a German site, there is such news. Since it is possible to import goods worth only up to EUR 300 duty-free into Ukraine, we will send vegetable cutters from Germany in several parcels. The intermediary does not undertake to estimate the contents of the parcel in the invoice, there were incidents. Therefore, I will form your orders for parcels not by weight, but by amount. And for all included in one parcel, the delivery amount will be divided. At the same time, the delivery amount, if the parcel alone weighs up to 8 kg, will not be 35 euros, as I put on the plate for the first time, but only 27.7 euros. You can try to estimate the weight of each parcel (we also add the weight of the box itself, in which the parcel will go to the approximate weight of the grater inserts) and if everyone agrees, then collect money based on the amount calculated in this way. Upon the arrival of each parcel, we weigh the order of each one again and correct it.
Can make the option easier, you send me money on the card only the cost of the order and the services of an intermediary, and I pay for the delivery at my own expense, and then upon the arrival of the parcel to me, we will weigh and calculate each additional payment.
What do you think?

Girls, I read somewhere that the Oryol plant RADAR produces a copy of the CLASSIC model vegetable cutter. Maybe they lie of course

I bought their "product" three years ago. No wonder they say that a miser pays twice. Although it cost ridiculous money then, it works as it stands. Carrots (and not only) are regularly in the form of disco cubes. Then you have to disagree.
And today I finally made an initiative, but so far in the form of a separate grater - I started with a waffle. Girls, I'm overwhelmed! By hook or by crook, I will become the owner of everything else!

And today I finally made an initiative, but so far in the form of a separate grater - I started with a waffle. Girls, I'm overwhelmed!

Yes, waffle, that's cool! Everything else is just as spicy and beautiful! For me, the waffle was not often used before, but now I cut wavy carrot rounds on it into the soup. They are, of course, thick for soup, but my son just, bad, hates carrots in the soup, but in such a large form, it is easier to catch it from his plate and put it on our plates with my husband. She is so pretty and even tastier.

Yes, waffle, that's cool! Everything else is just as spicy and beautiful! For me, the waffle was not often used before, but now I cut wavy carrot rounds on it into the soup. They are, of course, thick for soup, but my son just, bad, hates carrots in the soup, but in such a large form, it is easier to catch it from his plate and put it on our plates with my husband. She is so pretty and even tastier.

So I trained on carrots, also in soup - beauty!

So I trained on carrots, also in soup - beauty!

In the spring, I often cut a cucumber and radishes into salads on it. And you can also make grates from potatoes and deep-fry them.

Girls, on a purchase from a German site, there is such news. Since it is possible to import goods worth only up to EUR 300 duty-free into Ukraine, we will send vegetable cutters from Germany in several parcels. The intermediary does not undertake to estimate the contents of the parcel in the invoice, there were incidents. Therefore, I will form your orders for parcels not by weight, but by amount. And for all included in one parcel, the delivery amount will be divided. At the same time, the delivery amount, if the parcel alone weighs up to 8 kg, will not be 35 euros, as I put on the plate for the first time, but only 27.7 euros. You can try to estimate the weight of each parcel (we also add the weight of the box itself, in which the parcel will go to the approximate weight of the grater inserts) and if everyone agrees, then collect money based on the amount calculated in this way. Upon the arrival of each parcel, we weigh the order of each one again and correct it.
Can make the option easier, you send me money on the card only the cost of the order and the services of an intermediary, and I pay for the delivery at my own expense, and then upon the arrival of the parcel to me, we will weigh and calculate each additional payment.
What do you think?

Natasha, I think it's better for the simplified version (if, of course, you are able to pay for the delivery at your own expense), because according to the first option, there will be more trouble with weighing all the parcels and calculating the delivery amount for each parcel, and then the amount for each customer.
After receiving the parcel directly by you, it is easier to adjust the amount of the surcharge for each, taking into account the delivery. It's my opinion

[makabusha]

I would like to offer you makabusha, since there will be several parcels from Germany, form a parcel by city (or several cities in one). If there are several people from one city, then it is easier then to scatter joint parcels, and we will sort it out on the spot.
With payment, it also seems to me easier for the first option. To avoid fraudulent payment, please do not send parcels to us until we have paid the final fees.
In general, thank you!

[makabusha]

I would like to offer you makabusha, since there will be several parcels from Germany, form a parcel by city (or several cities in one). If there are several people from one city, then it is easier then to scatter joint parcels, and we will sort it out on the spot.

No, no, it seems to me that this is not an option. This is the essence of the joint venture, so that they load everything in a bunch and send it, without bothering to complete one by one grater. And international shipping services will be cheaper for one large box than for ten small ones.
And on the account of payment - I agree. Everyone should pay immediately, without delay. Until everyone pays, you cannot place an order.

[makabusha]

Can make the option easier, you send me money on the card only the cost of the order and the services of an intermediary, and I pay for the delivery at my own expense, and then upon the arrival of the parcel to me, we will weigh and calculate each additional payment.
What do you think?

makabusha, I really like this option. The most important thing is that now you don't need to bother with counting the delivery at all, but count it only later, upon arrival. But in this case, you will have to invest your money at the stage of paying for services to the intermediary. It is so? If this is acceptable for you, then it is ideal for us.

To make it not so expensive for Makabushka to pay for the delivery at his own expense, I suggest that the girls pay the cost of the currencies + some approximate amount for delivery, and pay the exact amount upon the arrival of the parcel.

[makabusha]

To make it not so expensive for Makabushka to pay for the delivery at his own expense, I suggest that the girls pay the cost of the currencies + some approximate amount for delivery, and pay the exact amount upon the arrival of the parcel.

I had the same thought. You can even do this. For example, everyone pays a certain preliminary amount for the services of an intermediary. Moreover, the amount is obviously larger than expected. A makabusha then the difference (if it is significant) is put into an envelope - and into a parcel with a grater.

I agree to any conditions.

To make it not so expensive for Makabushka to pay for the delivery at his own expense, I suggest that the girls pay the cost of the currencies + some approximate amount for delivery, and pay the exact amount upon the arrival of the parcel.

it seems to me that this is the most acceptable option.

Well .. on Saturday I will calculate how many boxes will turn out, I will estimate the total delivery, if the amount is acceptable for me, I will pay it myself, if not, each will add to the order amount some price that is the same for everyone, and then we will figure it out.
Deep, it will not work in one big parcel, I wrote above, due to the restrictions on the cost of the parcel up to 300 euros. Last weekend the order was already 500 euros. It will be confusing for the intermediary to form a parcel from Germany to cities, because the main criterion is the cost, so as not to sit and think over, let him put it as he pleases, so long as it withstands the limit of 300 euros. All the same, both parcels will come to me at the same time (to my name, to my husband, if necessary, also to my neighbor). And there we will already decide how I will transfer, then we will figure out who lives with whom in the same city.

makabusha, this will be the best option. Natasha, please let us know (when you have finally decided) how much you need to add to the order amount and when and where you need to transfer money.

[Maybe someone knows for sure which of the four PRIMov positions of the knifeless insert correspond to the positions of the knifeless insert of the TREND, and which of these four PRIMov positions is similar to the stub TREND (PROF)?]

Dear girls, advice is needed. My friendship with PRIMA is only a few days, but I'm already head over heels in love. And so my mother came to visit. I did not expect at all that a person who has peredshinkovaya so 10 tons of cabbage in his life with a knife will fall in love with a plastic device. In general, tomorrow my PRIMA together with my mother will move to a new place of residence. Therefore, I am again without Berner. I read the whole topic, look at the pictures, and I am more and more convinced - I want a PRO!

Actually the question. On PRIMA, I really like the bow with rings at the thinnest position of the knifeless insert. Does the PROFI (read TREND with a stub) have a similar slice thickness? Owners of PROFI and TREND, tell me.
Maybe someone knows for sure which of the four PRIMov positions of the knifeless insert correspond to the positions of the knifeless insert of the TREND, and which of these four PRIMov positions is similar to the stub TREND (PROF)?

[Maybe someone knows for sure which of the four PRIMov positions of the knifeless insert correspond to the positions of the knifeless insert of the TREND, and which of these four PRIMov positions is similar to the stub TREND (PROF)?]

Maybe someone knows for sure which of the four PRIMov positions of the knifeless insert correspond to the positions of the knifeless insert of the TREND, and which of these four PRIMov positions is similar to the stub TREND (PROF)?

TREND:
thin 1.5-1.7 mm depending on product hardness and pressing force
medium (plug) 4-4.5 mm
thick 5-5.5 mm

PRIMA:
thin - 1.2mm
medium - 3.2 mm
thick - 5.2mm
the thickest - 6.6 mm

(thanks to Iriska for the primov measurements)

Tanya, thank you so much! Exhaustive! I think further.
Tan, didn't you write that there is less waste on the trend? In the sense of the residual pieces are smaller than in the example? It's true?

Tanya, thank you so much! Exhaustive! I think further.
Tan, didn't you write that there is less waste on the trend? In the sense of the residual pieces are smaller than in the example? It's true?

On the Trend, the sides are lower, so yes - there is less output.
And in Prima, the high sides do not allow it to grind off less. Such sides in Prima were made for cubicof

I have a very beloved VIP-4 - the predecessor of Prima and Trend

I just missed the thickness of the Trend!
My Vip, like Prima, has the thinnest one, so thin that it's too thin. And the next one is too thick.
The trendy imaginary is the very thing

So both are active!
VIP is responsible for bars of all thicknesses, and Trend for rings-circles-plates and cabbage!

VIP is responsible for bars of all thicknesses, and Trend for rings-circles-plates and cabbage!

Oh, Dzhulichka, don't tear your soul! I am the current that I refused the Lotion I wanted it for the sake of maximum thickness, and even the maximum there turned out to be thin for my needs. And I already tuned in to her
Here Primushka beckons me, even burst! And I can't think of something to do with her that my hard worker Trend cannot cope with. Trendy cuts absolutely suit me, except for a thickness of 0.8-1 cm. But, alas, not a single grater will give this ...