Homik
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valushka-s take which one you find first

You will not regret
valushka-s
and the Chelyabinskaya is still in gift wrapping (but for me for myself), I called yesterday and they explained to me why one is more expensive by 50r.
they have, for some reason, reeds heavier by 150g (1.65 kg). although not a fact!
in the Kamyshlov, the inclusion seems to stick up, and in the Chelyabinsk in the side. maybe some option is more convenient?
I still want to take it for myself next week, as soon as I begin to breathe faster!
Melanyushka
Chelyabinsk stoves are very good. I used them 200 percent - I made almost any dish in them. At one time I had four of them, the first two were sorted out by my father, and then, if it burns out, I just bought another. I baked absolutely everything in them: pies, and meat, chicken, custard cakes, biscuits in a low form ...
Then there was a good oven in el. stove, I threw this Miracle somehow, somewhere on the mezzanine are my two stoves. But in general, to be honest, I thought that very few people use them now, in the presence of AG, multicooker, pressure cooker, mini-oven. Well this is essentially a mini-oven, there is nothing special there, that's good for a summer residence, as she helped us out in the garden!
Tanyulya
Quote: Melanyushka

Chelyabinsk stoves are very good. I used them 200 percent - I made almost any dish in them. At one time I had four of them, the first two were sorted out by my father, and then, if it burns out, I just bought another. I baked absolutely everything in them: pies, and meat, chicken, custard cakes, biscuits in a low form ...
Then there was a good oven in el. stove, I threw this Miracle somehow, somewhere on the mezzanine are my two stoves. But in general, to be honest, I thought that very few people use them now, in the presence of AG, multicooker, pressure cooker, mini-oven. Well this is essentially a mini-oven, there is nothing special there, that's good for a summer residence, as she helped us out in the garden!
Melanyushka, even with the presence of AG in Miracle, such a spiritual pastry
Nevushka
Just a pizza:
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Nevushka
Bread. Kneading HP, and baking Miracle:
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Catwoman
Quote: Nevushka

Bread. Kneading HP, and baking Miracle:
Electric frying pan

Verunya! Class! And what kind of recipe and everything in detail, please!
Nevushka
Oh, Lenochka, thanks!
Recipe - 1 and 1/3 cup water, plum oil. 2 tbsp. l., salt 2 tsp. Sugar 4 tsp Cream 20% 2 tbsp. l., whole grain flour 2 cups, plain flour 2 cups, dry yeast 2 tsp.
In general, this is a recipe for Bread for sandwiches from the instructions and hp binaton, only modified by me (instead of cream, there is powdered milk and all ordinary flour). I made the kneading on the Sandwich program, then stopped the program, pulled out the dough, rolled it into buns and miraculously. She cut the middle with scissors - so that it looked more like a flower
Catwoman
Verun, what kind of whole grain do you have? You have white buns!
Nevushka
The whole grain is called "French Thing", the crumb of bread looks like a white one with bran.
Catwoman
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The whole grain is called "French Thing", the crumb of bread looks like a white one with bran.

Yeah, I see, I think I have one, I'll go and see.
Galin
I read this topic, read, well, I could not read any more, I also ordered such a miracle, only because of the holidays, the delivery will be on Monday. So I'm waiting. At the same time I ordered another electric shredder (I don’t know how much I will like it in practice, but I liked it in the picture, I decided to order it at the same time).
Marika-san
Dear girls, how grateful I am to you: I read and read and now I'm with a Miracle! I was inspired by beautiful pastries VS NIKA-Vicky and Tanyulya-Tatiana! Even in this heat (we have +30!), She sprinted to the other end of the city behind her. I sit, write, and the aroma of freshly baked buns floats around the apartment (recipe for a Panasonic 2502-bun Moscow bread maker). It bakes very quickly, the pan gets very hot, but there is no such heat as from the oven, the top is rosy! I confirm: the device is not superfluous!
Marika-san
Vika, she is not old, she is legendary! (y) When I was twisting it in my hands, it seemed to me that I was again a young mother and next to me a little daughter was spinning in the kitchen (I had it, a frying pan, but then I was completely, well, absolutely not enlightened in kitchen appliances - there is a gas oven and it is good, I thought). Vika, I will study photos: they are beautiful, professional, they please any aesthetic taste, well done! Girls, the buns are decreasing: already minus three pieces, and mine have not arrived yet ... and I baked thick waffles in the morning ... that's a problem ...
Vichka
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Vika, she is not old, she is legendary! (y) When I was twisting it in my hands, it seemed to me that I was again a young mother and next to me a little daughter was spinning in the kitchen (I had it, a frying pan, but then I was completely, well, absolutely not enlightened in kitchen appliances - there is a gas oven and it is good, I thought). Vika, I will study photos: they are beautiful, professional, they please any aesthetic taste, well done! Girls, the buns are decreasing: already minus three pieces, and mine have not arrived yet ... and I baked thick waffles in the morning ... that's a problem ...
I read and the mood rose, as if I had eaten a loaf baked in a miracle!
And I remember this frying pan from childhood. When an electric kettle and a wonderful frying pan were a luxury. And our mothers, the wives of the military got out these devices by pull. Teapots, however, to our fathers, loved to give at celebrations, the higher authorities.
svane
Girls, does anyone have such a thing? Both the frying pan (it is convenient to fry!) And the lid are heated there. Specially, in order to cook on the balcony in the summer, I bought a multicooker, but it already has zarapina, although I was careful!
Actually, I want a "pot" where you can fry, bake, bake, stew and slowly cook, but steel or ceramic. There are only two of us, and I don't want to drive a large oven in the summer, advise!
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dopleta
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Girls, does anyone have such a thing?
svane, we have already discussed them here, and many wanted to buy, especially the rectangular one. They even wrote to the site, ready for a joint purchase. But how to buy? We were not answered.
svane
Sorry! I would have known earlier, in December I was with my husband in Krakow for a whole week!
I also wrote to them today, I will wait for an answer!
It has two forks, in a frying pan and in a lid, which means you can fry, for example, cutlets in it, which is impossible in a miracle oven, because you must always close the lid. Am I getting it right?
Marika-san
Girls, and my brand new Miracle of that ... Yesterday I discovered that everything in the lid rattles and rolls, apparently, the heating element has fallen apart? And this is after four times of careful use and storage ... Somewhere before buying, I read on one forum: a man wrote that Soviet pans and the current ones are a big difference, this element is falling apart in modern ones, he assumed that the tens are Chinese. Eh ... I gave it to my husband for an autopsy, but when he gets ready.
Melanyushka
Marina, it's okay, continue to use your Miracle, nothing terrible will happen. During my time, I have had several of them for many years, they were used for everything not only 100%, but almost constantly, without really cooling down. There is something rattling from the first days, it has been so since Soviet times, it seems that no one has improved anything in the design since then. If my husband has time to open up and shake out the excess that rattles, but not - so this is a small hindrance, the performance of the frying pan will not interfere.
I don’t know how it is now, but before there was a usual spiral in ceramic cups, like scales, so they seem to be very fragile, and they begin to fall apart even when turning over, putting on and removing the lid from the pan.
Vichka
And I do not thunder, I use it often!
Marika-san
Girls, they opened it, nothing seemed to fall apart, beforehand: the lower part of the top cover with the heating element somehow "moved away" and began to badly press this spiral (it began to move there as it pleases). And it should lie in a circle and slightly in the middle, held in this position (for uniform heating) by this lower part, uh ... well, you get it, right? We pressed it more tightly, now I'll see how it goes. Vika, you have a different manufacturer, probably of better quality.
Vichka
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Girls, they opened it, nothing seemed to fall apart, beforehand: the lower part of the top cover with the heating element somehow "moved away" and began to badly press this spiral (it began to move there as it pleases). And it should lie in a circle and slightly in the middle, held in this position (for uniform heating) by this lower part, uh ... well, you get it, right? We pressed it more tightly, now I'll see how it goes. Vika, you have a different manufacturer, probably of better quality.
I think it is not the manufacturer himself who is to blame, but the handles that twisted these screws there.
Tanyulya
My lid initially rattles like a rattle, but it seems to bake normally.
Melanyushka
Correctly said, after the first two fixes with the subsequent ones, I did just that: if it broke, I bought a new one.
Nevushka
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My lid initially rattles like a rattle, but it seems to bake normally.
similarly, I found it quite natural, well, there is a heating coil between the two parts of the cover - metal on metal and rings.
Marika-san
Girls, and it rattled like a rattle when buying, I didn't even pay attention to it - I had one in the 90s, I still remember its features. But then there was a strong roar, like stones knocking: pardon: While we figured it out, we propped up the spiral harder, it warms up, it starts to rattle again like a rattle. The husband criticized the quality of the aluminum, said it was flimsy, even bends under the fingers. I recently read about dishes made of aluminum, it turns out that when heated, some of the molecules pass into food, which is harmful to health. ... Eh, I also dream of Czech remosque,she, I suppose, is also made of stainless steel ...
Aygul
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Girls, they opened it, nothing seemed to fall apart, beforehand: the lower part of the top cover with the heating element somehow "moved away" and began to badly press this spiral (it began to move there as it pleases). And it should lie in a circle and slightly in the middle, held in this position (for uniform heating) by this lower part, uh ... well, you get it, right? We pressed it more tightly, now I'll see how it goes. Vika, you have a different manufacturer, probably of better quality.
I have Kamyshlovskaya. there was the same situation, everything was loosely fixed, the spiral jumped off and dangled inside the lid, as a result, the baked goods were baked unevenly. We unrolled, laid out the spiral in a circle, fixed it, it works normally. Well, yes, everything is flimsy there.
Marika-san
Looked at the little book: Ural Household Products Plant, Chelyabinsk. Well, that means then it happens for both manufacturers. I like the stove, I bake, I haven’t found an alternative to the top heating element in household electric pans.
Margitte
We never had a miracle stove, but I always wanted it, then, for many years, I completely forgot about it, I thought that they were no longer produced ... And so, yesterday in the store, next to the air fryer I saw two models , Chelyabinsk for 900 rubles. and Kamyshlovskaya for 1000, the latter, purely visually, I liked it more, now I'm thinking, buy chtoli ...
Aygul
Margitte , everyone who bought is happy
Nevushka
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We never had a miracle stove, but I always wanted it, then, for many years, I completely forgot about it, I thought that they were no longer produced ... And so, yesterday in the store, next to the air fryer I saw two models , Chelyabinsk for 900 rubles. and Kamyshlovskaya for 1000, the latter, purely visually, I liked it more, now I'm thinking, buy chtoli ...
and where did you see the air fryer?
Margitte
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and where did you see the air fryer?
In a store in our city, this is not St. Petersburg ...
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Margitte , everyone who bought is happy
I decided to postpone the purchase for now, because I bought AF, and let the Miracle wait now
Nevushka
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In a store in our city, this is not St. Petersburg ... I decided to postpone the purchase for now, because I bought AF, and let Miracle wait now
and the city is apparently a big secret? Or do you think that people do not come further than the specified city and they have no friends?
szd58
Hello! Girls do not tell me where you can buy a connecting cord from the miracle stove? I called online stores, they don't sell them separately.
A housewife
And I bought this frying pan too! first, after reading this topic carefully, of course We are now living in temporary housing, and did not want to buy an electric oven, so that later it would not be dragged with us. Of course, a little too small, but for a small family of three, where one baby is not a meat-eater, it is normal! the connecting cord is some kind of horror, really the Soviet Union, I had to buy an adapter for a euro-socket. And after several uses, the adapter burned out, I asked my husband to attach a euro plug, it costs only 18 rubles. It's a pity that you can't alter the transition to the frying pan itself, otherwise everything dangles there too. It rustles inside the lid, but! the instructions say it's ok
Tanyulya
I already bought a new one Kamyshlov.
A housewife
And I have Chelyabinsk, I'll see how much it will last, if these two years cannot, then I will not buy another.
Tanyulya
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What's the first thing?
Truncated. Has died But now I have two bases and one lid, I can bake two pies in a row.
Conclusion, even if this one breaks ... I'll still buy a new one. Cool thing. Here's where to find Czech
Vichka
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Truncated. Has died But now I have two bases and one lid, I can bake two pies in a row.
Conclusion, even if this one breaks ... I'll still buy a new one. Cool thing. Here's where to find Czech
Well, if you appreciated it, then it was not in vain that I decided to take that step, with the purchase, and then many, after all, made fun of me, they say, I rolled back.
You have a good idea with a foundation! Where did you meet Czech?
Tanyulya
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Well, if you appreciated it, then it was not in vain that I decided to take that step, with the purchase, and then many, after all, made fun of me, they say, I rolled back.
You have a good idea with a foundation! Where did you meet Czech?
I met Toka on the Internet in pictures, do you think if I met her in my life, we would go further apart? Nooo, I would take her to live with me
And the pan is really great, the idea is great. Everything is baked with a bang, it is washed the same wonderful. It's a shame that China is churning out, and they give it out for Chelyabinsk, it was China that ordered me to live a long time.
Vichka
Was your first Chelyabinsk? I have Kamyshlov.
Tanyulya
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Was your first Chelyabinsk? I have Kamyshlov.
Yes, I have Chelyabinsk, and then I found out that China is stamping them. They are no longer made at our plant. They showed me the old Chelyabinsk ... heaven and earth. I bought this Kamyshlovskaya, it seems stronger, let's see how long it will last. Just in case, I asked all my acquaintances if anyone had an old Soviet one in the store. I was offered one, but there is a heater at the bottom ... not that
Vichka
Quote: Tanyulya

Yes, I have Chelyabinsk, and then I found out that China is stamping them. They are no longer made at our plant. They showed me the old Chelyabinsk ... heaven and earth. I bought this Kamyshlovskaya, it seems stronger, let's see how long it will last. Just in case, I asked all my acquaintances if anyone had an old Soviet one in the store. I was offered one, but there is a heater at the bottom ... not that
Her, only the top heater! I didn’t even know that there was a lower one then.
Aygul
Quote: Vichka

Well, if you appreciated it, then it was not in vain that I decided to take that step, with the purchase, and then many, after all, made fun of me, they say, I rolled back.
Some (at the sight of my collection) recollect to me: before / our parents had SUCH a wonderful frying pan, and I, all so lovely, answer: so here it is
Aygul
Quote: Tanyulya

Yes, I have Chelyabinsk, and then I found out that China is stamping them. They are no longer made at our plant. They showed me the old Chelyabinsk ... heaven and earth.
Well ... but I was upset that I took Kamyshlovskaya, I wanted Chelyabinskaya. This will do everything 2 times faster (only you will need to wash 2 times more)
Tanyulya
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Well ... and I was upset that I took Kamyshlovskaya, I wanted Chelyabinskaya. This will do everything 2 times faster (only you will need to wash 2 times more)
Yeah, that's how I thought it, my husband wanted to throw it away ... not dalaaa She quickly washes it off with a brush for one or two.
Aygul
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Yeah, that's how I got it, my husband wanted to throw it away ... didn't give it a go
And pralna, otherwise give them free rein, everyone would be thrown out for uselessness, the only thing left is to stand up with your chest and justify Need
Vichka
I wonder who does Kamyshlovskaya?
And in Chelyabinsk, probably only boxes for stoves are made ... it's a pity, it was a good factory

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