Autoclave

[Queenie]

We have Topic about homemade stew ... But I would like to focus on the autoclave. As far as I understand, household items are no longer produced, and it is almost impossible to buy a Soviet one. Queenie wrote that her parents have, they enjoy and are happy. Maybe someone has been buying recently, or who has an unnecessary one lying around ... And at least find out the order of the price, otherwise I only find industrial ones by searching ...

[Hairpin]

Oh, Hairpin , sorry, I did not see what you wrote to me.

The autoclave consists of three tiers. Liter cans fit 14 pieces, and half-liter cans 21 pieces.
Jars of stew must be put into an autoclave, pour water. Close the autoclave and turn on the fire under it. When the arrow on the monometer reaches 1.2 kg, screw the fire on and hold for 40 minutes. Let cool and the stew is ready.

There are some more points. For example, when a poultry stew is being prepared, if cold water is poured into the autoclave, then soft bones will turn out, and if hot, the bones will remain hard.

If you have any more questions, I will answer.

[Qween]

And where to get something ??? Oh, I want, I want, I want !!!! And you can invent it yourself in artisanal conditions? Well, for example, based on some big pressure cooker .....? Qween, but it will be possible, even in the distant future, to see him in the photograph? And as far as I understand, it takes up a lot of places. Oh, I want it !!!!

[kanga]

kanga, I have not seen autoclaves that were mass-produced at the factory.
All of them are made in an artisanal way. To put it mildly, they take up a lot of space. It looks like a huge saucepan with a clamp and a pressure gauge, only the bottom is rounder.

Maybe they were made in factories, but I have not heard about it.

A very useful temka! We just want to have such a miracle and found masters with golden pens, we just need a visual aid
Qween, you can take a photo (falling on your knees and begging emoticon)
In the village, broiler chickens have fattened up to pig size, it's time to cut, and where to store the problem comes up every year. It is difficult for the elderly without an autoclave - there is no gas, no running water. They make corned beef the old fashioned way, but soak it, soak it - but there is no taste!

[Cilia]

Cilia , photo, of course you can. But, you dare to make this autoclave from the photo?
Does the Internet write anything on this topic?

I'll also talk to my dad. I wonder what he has to say about making the autoclave.

I personally think that if you do it yourself, then of course you get a monster ....! Well, yes, we don't care as long as he does his job !!! Well, the size should be smaller !! In the picture, 6 cans in height and 6 in width, we add those that are inside .... this is a crazy amount !!! We're not going to make 50 cans of fish or meat or ... well, it doesn't matter what. Although tomatoes and cucumbers ..... No, you still need less. But how much less? And, in general, it is necessary to estimate the optimal capacity. Who is first? Okay, I'll be the first! I probably would have had enough ... well, cans for ... 15 seven hundred grams. Probably .

As Pakat said, there is everything on the Internet ...
And it is easier (and much cheaper) to buy clips on the lids (though cook
need longer)

[Louise]

Louise!
Great, but no price list. I dashed off a request for them, I will wait, maybe they will answer. I really liked it, despite the fact that this is Krasnodar.
If only I knew the order of the price ...

[Hairpin]

Hairpin, well, if you buy an autoclave, you will be able to take a salary with meat not in one day, but for all months and even in advance

Oh, and if you do it from a gas cylinder, then how can you lift this weight onto the stove? Oh, dear mom !!!

[Hairpins]

Oh, this "Favorite" is exactly what is required !!! And the size is the very thing, and the capacity !!! And not quite even outwardly monstrous! We are waiting for prices from Hairpins!! Eagerly!!

Now, if that small autoclave could be exchanged for pork ...
By the way, I already took it. Neck, shoulder blade, ribs and lard. You can take as much as you want (I, however, was the first), but I gained 5 kilograms ... In two bags ... For myself and my godmother ... And then we will see ...

There is a price list on the site (I don't know, though, how new it is).
Prices are about 20 tons.
The cheapest electric one is 8 900 rubles.
The cheapest for a gas stove is 6 800 rubles.

The answer from Favorite lies here:

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In short, everything is as usual!

[Hairpin]

Thank you,Hairpin!!! So if with a distiller, is it also a moonshine still? It's a pity that I don't drink any alcoholic drinks at all! Oh, I have a humidifier and a steam mop, and it's better to fill in distilled water there !!!! All I take all !!!! Together with a distiller !!!! At what I'll take, probably, electric !!! How do you get it? By mail ? Or go straight to Krasnodar and go? I didn't read something about delivery.

In the bad 90, she raised broilers and cooked stew without an autoclave. She stewed chicken in a cauldron for a long time, and then sterilized cans of stew in a saucepan with a closed lid. Everything was stored normally and ate and fed the children

In the bad 90, she raised broilers and cooked stew without an autoclave. She stewed chicken in a cauldron for a long time, and then sterilized cans of stew in a saucepan with a closed lid. Everything was stored normally and ate and fed the children

This is all understandable, but in a village where you bring water from a spring and chop wood, it is difficult! So we are looking for an autoclave to shorten and simplify the process.

Girls, when I had a cow, I used such a homemade thing. The principle is the same. Only there the cans were put in two rows: down the liter ones, and up the half-liter ones, on these pins they were tightened with nuts. How many cans were included, I don't remember. All this construction was placed in a tank. Remember these were galvanized - they heated water and boiled linen. Then water was poured into the tank and it took 2 hours to boil. It turned out to be a very tasty stew.

[Queenie]

Queenie, and your dad did it himself?

Hairpin , dad didn't do autoclave. Friends helped him in this.

Something I read the user reviews of the autoclave, and I got the impression that if you buy it, then you still need a cow, a couple of pigs, a herd of turkeys and, of course, chickens. And all this on the fourth floor: wow: !!!

Oh yeah!
A lot of good things are needed to add to the autoclave.

Imagine how much meat you need to fit into 14 liter jars. It is impossible to preserve only porridge with meat, or fish in tomato sauce. The most demanded, anyway, will be simple meat.

Is it possible to get tomatoes with cucumbers and mushrooms there too? Or will the tomatoes and cucumbers be overcooked?

[kanga]

kanga, in the autoclave, do not do the usual preservation, in the form of cucumbers and tomatoes.

And I feel sorry for ten thousand ... It's two bread makers ...

And I feel sorry for ten thousand ... It's two bread makers ...

That's right, Hairpin! It is worth thinking hard, but by and large it seems you don't really need this device ?!

[Tatulya12!]

Tatulya12!
To be honest, I don’t know at all what I really need and what not ... A year ago I would have taken him, and now ... I have to grow wiser ...

And I have nowhere to keep the cattle! Yes, and I still can't nail it, after feeding it myself! But why would I want an autoclave anyway?

[This Aporato-agrigato-locomotive! not only is not useful in this version, but also dangerous for you my friends and for those around you!]

As Pakat said, there is everything on the Internet ...

And it is easier (and much cheaper) to buy clips on the lids (though cook
need longer)

That's what parsley My friends!
For a long time I became interested in canning, but somehow my hands did not reach that time, then I studied for a long time the schemes and materials from which it could be made.
And here on the market In Simferopol, from where I come from I see this (Thing! -Crap! I can't name it differently now, that's why it's simple) -picture as provided above.
Bargained, took, was pleased! Factory as the seller said (doubts came when buying "Where is the passport and the OTK mark?" Just some kind of photocopy of a piece of paper) but okay ...
Questions began to appear later!
1-where is the thermometer? why not completed ???
2-where is the pressure gauge? why the valves are not marked and there is no tattooing ???
3-how to observe the modes ???
But this is not the worst thing as it turned out later!
I bought a pressure gauge and replaced one valve! an automobile spool was soldered into the second valve! Well, it seems they will trample all sha canned food! one little need to experience this miracle of technology at a working 2.2 atmospheres and a critical pressure of 4 atmospheres!
What have I seen ??? what was shocked! ???
When the pressure was raised to 0.8 atmospheres, the lid began to bend into a hexagon, since the tightness immediately gave fistulas to 6 attachment points! Tightened harder! We pump further the pressure of 1.2 atmospheres hisses around the entire perimeter we tighten the skoko there is some foolishness The ears of the attachment begin to bend down! "It has become a bit disgusting!" But it is necessary to continue the pressure of 1.35 atmospheres. The bottom blew out and the container became a tumbler, the swags became stronger, the ears straightened, and the bolts shifted to the side of sliding! I kicked everyone out of the test area and got out the door myself.
download on! pressure of 1.5 atmospheres, the bolts slid to half of the fastening grooves, hangs everywhere, the tumbler increased, microcracks were found on the body itself after foaming (with soapy water) the entire surface of the tank.
After that, I became scared for my life and I stopped the test after making one deplorable diagnosis!

This Aporato-agrigato-locomotive! not only is not useful in this version, but also dangerous for you my friends and for those around you!

For those who say why the pressure is possible and because in a pressure cooker! - I will tell you that in the absence of excess pressure at 20C, the vapor pressure at 120C reaches 2.2 atmospheres (pressure release at this moment will lead to depressurization of canned food or their destruction)

As for this picture, it can be exploited if redone, but for this you will need to perform turning, welding and locksmith work. if you wonder what exactly write in a personal I will try to help.

I see Temka doesn't live already, but I'll try to ask))
Dear members of the forum, I am interested in one question: is it possible to get rid of the distant aftertaste of burning in a stew cooked in an autoclave? Or do you need to get used to it?
Previously, the meat was stored only in the freezer, they got used to it - pulled it out - in a cartoon - ate it (it tastes like fresh). We bought an ovtoclave for stew, until I just made it once, in total - a slight taste of bitterness ((I did it as expected according to the recipe - 50 minutes at 120 degrees.
As far as I remember the taste of the store stew (I ate a very long time, I'm afraid to lie even when) had no bitterness. What to do?

Are you sure that this is a burnt aftertaste, maybe Lavrushka gives bitterness? My husband makes stew in an autoclave, there is no burning or bitterness. Maybe it's still a lot of spices?

And no special spices are needed. Only salt, black peppercorns and a bay leaf (one small per jar).

Good day. Thanks for answers.
I made the stew according to the recipe for the first time: for a 1-liter jar there are 2 bay leaves and 6 peppercorns, probably there are still a lot of lavrushka (the leaves were not small). Next time I will try to throw less, since there are still many extra roosters, I will experiment)))
Thanks again for the answers

Girls, they rented an autoclave for me, but not like the one you showed here.
It is not big, only 4 jars. There are two plates. The lower one, where the cans are placed (there is a place with rubber pads for them), there are 4 high pins in the corners and the upper one is so heavy with holes for these pins. It is put back on the jars and attracted with nuts.
They explained to me that the cans of stew must be rolled up, placed in an autoclave and boiled in a large pot of water for 6 hours, without taking it out to cool.
Is it correct? Can anyone have experience using such an autoclave, tell me

Hello.
I found a lot of autoclave recipes
here are a few of them.
Meat for the preparation of canned food must be ripe, that is, matured after slaughter for a day.
1. Canned food recipe - "Stewed beef", "Stewed lamb"
Ingredients 0.5 l can 1 l can
Raw meat (beef or lamb), g 440 830
Fat (vegetable oil), g 90 170
Salt, g 5 10
Onion, g 7 14
Black peppercorns, pcs. 3 6
Bay leaf, pcs. 12

I have the same autoclave as in the first video, very happy

Here I have one like in the second video, only smaller, by 14 cans. Accidentally got on the farmers forum and disappeared in the topic about autoclaves. I ordered and while driving to me, actively collecting recipes. Oh, it turns out there are so many things you can do ..... And I'm not talking about the preparations for the soups. I dug up the recipe from the Soviet times, now I want to try everything! And more condensed milk, I think. For the sake of meat alone, I would not take (there is no farm). So I will try one of these days. First time I'll put it with beets.

[solmazalla]

solmazalla, tell me, how do you make condensed milk in an autoclave?

[severyanka76]

severyanka76, 7 liters of fresh warm milk, 1 kg of powdered milk, 5 kg of sugar. Grind sugar with milk powder, gradually adding warm milk. when sugar dissolves, pour into jars, roll up and autoclave for 45 minutes at 120 degrees. According to reviews, a thick brown condensed milk is obtained and very tasty. (I haven't tried it myself, but this recipe actually finished off my decision to buy an autoclave)

[solmazalla]

solmazalla, very interesting, we will wait for your feedback on the obtained condensed milk

[solmazalla]

solmazalla, for condensed milk, apparently, it turns out like boiled. We have an autoclave for elk stew (my husband loves hunting). We like!

[severyanka76]

severyanka76, oh, how on time about the elk !!! How are you doing? Lay the bones? The husband is carrying 25 kg of elk meat from the guests. In the morning I ran again, they say. Fresh meat should be subject to at least a day? And how long does it take in the autoclave? I'm afraid to spoil, my husband will not forgive a moose

[solmazalla]

solmazalla, Alla, we don’t put bones - bones in bags and in the freezer (for soup). We separate the meat and according to the stew recipe, the recipe in the recipe book is attached, we do it according to it. everything is simple there - put meat, salt, a little vegetable oil, a little lavrushka, black pepper, we leave 2 cm to the level of the lid, screw caps can be used and in an autoclave. We do a lot at once - a whole moose. We have a large autoclave. And last summer there was a pear - there was no time to make anything out of it, so I cut it into pieces into a basin, sprinkled it with sugar, put it in 0.5 cans and into an autoclave. It turned out in the jars on top, as it were, pear jam, and on the bottom of the jars - pear syrup.

Alla solmazalla, I was very interested in the condensed milk recipe, the products are simply mixed without heating and in cans, cans are poured full or not, otherwise all the ingredients are there, I want to do it. I have the simplest autoclave for 46 liters, we have been using it for five years, I am very satisfied.

[Oktyabrinka]

Oktyabrinka, milk for condensed milk is very warm and everything is mixed simply by hand. Banks, as always in an autoclave, are placed not filled to the brim (maximum on the hangers).

Chorus girls, what kind of autoclaves do you have? Where did you buy the models, are they satisfied?

I have 24 liters, 14 0.5 liter cans. I bought it here: 🔗

[panarino]

panarino

What autoclaves do you have? Where did you buy the models, are they satisfied?

I have a Krasnodar "Kid" - 22 liters, electric. Also happy. I ordered it with delivery by a transport company.

I have an electric autoclave with a capacity of 46 liters, now they are made of stainless steel, and this one is made of carbon steel with a polymer coating, I store it in between work in the closet in the utility block, for 5 years no rust has appeared, we close not only canned meat, vegetable salads, berries and much another, very glad that I bought it.