Sneg6
Quote: Marina22
Sneg6, thanks a lot, straight into the cold oven?
Marina, to your health! Yes, cold. I think you can cover it with a lid. It's warm in my kitchen, if it's cool you can turn on the light bulb.
Marina22
Sneg6, Thank you so much. So I will
Sneg6
Quote: Marina22
And I also wanted to ask, is it possible to take rye meal instead of wheat?
Marina, I did it only on wheat. I bake bread like this for two years https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=151601.0
Arnica
Sneg6, but in the recipe that you bake for 2 years, what kind of sourdough is taken? Can't there be Sekova 200 gr?
Sneg6
Quote: Olyushka

Sneg6, but in the recipe that you bake for 2 years, what kind of sourdough is taken? Can't there be Sekova 200 gr?
Olga, I take Sekova 20 grams from the withers, add 100 grams of water and 100 grams of rye flour. Then in a cold oven overnight, an active sourdough is obtained, then according to the recipe.
Umka
All TRICKS !!!

Girls, where do you buy this baconzyme ???
Arnica
Quote: Umka19
Girls, where do you buy this bacon enzyme ??? [/

Look at here:
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Umka
Olyushka, Olga, thanks a lot for the link !!!

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Sedne
I also want to buy to try, how long is 1 jar enough?
Sneg6
Quote: Sedne
I also want to buy to try, how long is 1 jar enough?
Svetlana, I have a bank since January, still full. I bake only wheat and rye once a week. Enough for more than one year)))
Sedne
Olga, well, it means one jar must be taken
Sneg6
VA
Marina22, you can just put it at the radiator. I do this in the autumn-winter period. Everything works out great.
I bake everything on the convicts: white and rye bread, zdaba and cakes. All the pastries are excellent, they do not stale for a long time (although they are not enough for a long time).
Arnica
I took a 20 g starter from a 250 g jar and made a sourdough (August 7). I take 17-20 grams of ready-made sourdough, bake it once a week, I didn't use up a lot. The girls wrote that the starter culture grown on the bacterial ferment can be stored in the refrigerator for up to 4 months, the dry bacterial ferment for a year, and read somewhere that even for several years.
I also thought it was expensive, but with such an expense I think that the price is reasonable.
I looked at a foreign website (in the Baltic States), it costs 6 €, but delivery is 30 €.
The only thing that you need to get used to with baking, just put all the ingredients and turn on the HP, as in yeast bread, it will not work. We must "play". But I have already adapted. The first loaves did not look very good, but they still tasted good. I mainly bake this recipe:
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VA
I ordered directly from a manufacturer in Germany. The price is about the same. But they took it to the group so that the delivery was cheaper. Now there is a year overdue from the last order of a bank of dry enzyme. Stands in the refrigerator. Made a ready-made sourdough, it works very well. I read from Boris in the livejornal that a dry bacterial enzyme can be stored in the refrigerator for up to 12 years.
Arnica
Today I baked wheat-rye bread, it turned out to be successful, I decided to take a picture. Not very high, but there is also a bookmark rate of 500 grams.

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Sneg6
Olga, good bread, chubby! Did you bake in a bread maker?
Arnica
Quote: Sneg6
Did you bake in a bread machine?
Yes, in a bread maker, but so to speak, in "manual mode": I put the starter culture on the battery overnight (it is not hot), in the morning I added the rest of the ingredients, sent the bucket to the HP and turned on the dough kneading, but turned it off after 15 minutes (I have 30 min. in the program), let it come up for about two hours, then again for 5 minutes, took out a spatula, formed a bun with her hands and left it to stand, for 4 hours it rose today. When she saw that she had risen enough, she turned on the baking at 1:10.
It’s bad that it’s impossible, like yeast: "put it in the HP and forget it." But the taste, of course, is different!
True, it is possible to program in my HP, but I have not tried it.
Sneg6
Quote: Olyushka
Yes, in a bread maker, but so to speak, in "manual mode":
That's why I don't bake in a bread maker, which should be turned on and off. And I like the taste from the oven more.
Arnica
We must also try it in the oven. So far, I'm just getting used to baking on Sekov's leaven, then I've mastered one recipe and I'm improving it a little.
Sneg6
Quote: Olyushka
We must also try it in the oven.
You will try, you will like it. I already forgot the taste of store-bought bread))).
Marina22
VA, thanks for the topic. This is the first time I have made this bacterial enzyme. Sex is normal. 1 to 1 whole wheat flour and rye flour. First I put it in a small desktop cold oven, time passed, nothing rose.
I moved it to a large one and tried to achieve a pace of 30 degrees. immediately began to grow. Then stage 2, at the end of the time a good result.
I kneaded the dough on rye Borodinsky from mamusi,
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=459467.0
put 1 tablespoon of sourdough .. Put it in a slow cooker, an hour passed, nothing rose.
She pulled out the dough, added another 1.5 tbsp. l. sourdough, mixed. After an hour, the dough rose well.
Here is my first bakery bread and my first experience.
I haven't cut it yet, I'm waiting for it to cool down.

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Sneg6
Marina22, great bread!
Marina22
I cut it today.
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Sneg6
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Marina22, what a perky !!! Surely delicious!
Marina22
Sneg6, thank you very much, yes delicious. But next time I'll do it without vinegar. I was a little sour, my husband was just right.
Sedne
Today this enzyme was also brought to me, I have already put it on stage 1, let's see what happens
Sneg6
Svetlana, everything will work out.
Marina22
Quote: notglass
if there is a little ready-made "wet" enzyme, it can be fed with an equal amount of flour + bran and water. Time and temperature should be as instructed. It may take more time.
that is, we need 30 degrees, right?
ninza
Girls, I read all the pages carefully. I wanted to buy this miracle. Please advise where. Thank you.
irina tukina
Vera, I also bake on Sekov. And the question is, if we cook Sekova at 30 degrees, then the dough must also be left for fermentation at 30 hiaduses?
Fotina
According to the instructions, I maintained the temperature only for the very first time. In the next, I prepared the leaven (base) at the battery. And now, before baking, for one loaf, I take about a heaped teaspoon of this basic sourdough, add 100 g of flour and water each, a pinch of dry enzyme from a can, and also stand by the battery for 6-8 hours.
I do not observe the exact dosage or the exact temperature, everything turns out fine.
irina tukina
Sveta, have you got a jar of dry enzyme? In a refrigerator? And the second question. I restored the enzyme on peeled rye flour and bake all khokba on this sourdough. And reading the comments, I see that they are using wheat flour. And how does this wheat leaven work for rye or wheat rye? I live in Estonia, I have not found any grains. I got out of the situation. I bought rye grain and pray on a coffee grinder.
Here are how many questions😊
Olga_Ma
Light, here's the recipe 🔗 and I also read about 30 degrees too 🔗
But I repeat, I did it in HP and I need to measure the temperature in it in order to know for sure
Svetlenki
Olga_Ma, Ol, you put to restore. By the way, did you smell the dough? Sekova, when cooked, has a very tasty sour apple flavor. Well, I have anyway.

Quote: Olga_Ma
I did in HP

Service for a start (when you kneaded the sekova from granules) is needed anyway, I think. There will be 30 degrees
Olga_Ma
Svetlenki, Light, so she had a very pleasant smell and she worked well in bread
Svetlenki
Quote: Olga_Ma
she had a very pleasant smell and worked well in bread

Ah, well then, great. I looked at Zheleznyak bread, you did it too, only without the top sprinkling.
Olga_Ma
Quote: Svetlenki
you did it too, only without sprinkling the top
thanks, we don’t like sprinkling Sveta, Zheleznyak advises a single-grain mode, what do you think, but low-yeast (I have a second program) will work?
Svetlenki
Olga_Ma, Olga, listen, why am I following in your footsteps ... No matter how much I tried on the sekove (though I fed the leaven from the restored starter), by the end of the batch the dough was spreading. I do not know why. Therefore, now I will activate and I will repeat after you.

Quote: Olga_Ma
Zheleznyak recommends a single-grain mode, do you think, but a low-yeast mode (I have a second program) will work?

And in the book of recipes for your Panasonic there is a recipe with cz flour for this "low-yeast" mode? If there is, then you can try. This is how I always determine whether it is possible to choose a certain mode or not.
Olga_Ma
Quote: Svetlenki
in the book of recipes for your Panasonic there is a recipe with tsz flour for this "low yeast" mode
there is, for sure, tomorrow I'll try on it
Sveta, I therefore, firstly, took a simple recipe first, and, secondly, because I am allergic to honey and I did not know how my body would perceive the leaven (at my own peril and risk)
Irina S
The first stage of enzyme recovery in Mart's multicooker
On a multi-cook 32 *

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Girls, if your sekowa reaches the expiration date, do not throw it away. I keep mine in the refrigerator at +3. About three years ago I forgot about her. stands a bank in the corner and stands. Yesterday I decided to check how I was alive or could I start fertilizing the plants. Verdict: rushing like crazy and became faster than she was. She left her before her Levito couple. So they correctly write: the longer it costs, the better it gets. And she fed her with whole grain wheat flour.
Irina S
That's what I got

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Irina S, super! The bread will be great!
And now in the refrigerator and take it as needed for baking. The advantage of not having to feed is over - you can still stir up.
Irina S
The bread is already in the oven
Cool starter! In 12 hours, 1 teaspoon made such a beautiful dough and a pleasant smell!

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