Pakat
Homemade ham without swine (cook with Pakat)
Victory, 100% chicken ham ... (ripe for Victory Day)
560 grams of meat from chicken legs, pieces, 560 grams of minced chicken, nitrite salt, spices, 20 grams of oatmeal, instant, 20 minutes stirring, stuffed Avgeiger, 48 hours refrigerated, 3.5 hours oven at 190 F, chill, overnight cold and victorious ham for breakfast ...
Happy Victory Day everyone!
Pakat
Homemade ham without swine (cook with Pakat)
Ham - Chicken legs on the meat road ...
2, 2 pounds (1 kg) Chicken meat, skinned from the feet, medium pieces, 0.5 pounds (227 grams) ground beef, nitrite salt, spices, ice, 20 grams oatmeal, quick cook, 20 minutes stirring, stuffed Beloboku, it didn't fit in others, 48 ​​hours in a hunger, 3.5 hours in an oven, 190 F, refrigeration, night in the cold and for breakfast, fresh tasty ham ...
izumka
Pakatic, and what do oat flakes give? How do they taste?
Pakat
They don't feel, but I put them as a stabilizer ...
You don't like them, don't put them, come up with your own ...
Ikra
Look how ... Stabilizer!
Mirabel
PakatWhere do you buy nitrite salt?
I was in a butcher's shop tried to find out .. on me prod. looked like crazy
Pakat
In a large food supermarket, in the meat department.
When I was looking, I called several others, they did not have ...
Find out exactly the name in French, or in Flemish, I don’t know which part of Belgium you live in ... There may be several names, each company calls names in its own way, then look for butcher shops or departments near you on the Internet, call them, probably somewhere will be ...
Mirabel
Pakat, Yes, we are metropolitan.
In the busheri (butcher's shop) I asked and explained. what is this salt, the prod was stunned in my opinion, what is it I'm looking for. But I will continue to search, thanks for the tip.
Ikra
Mirabel, what if you have Tescom's shops? I have never seen such salt in them in Moscow, but in Prague I bought it. M. b. do you have it there?
Mirabel
Irina, Nooo, we don't have any Teskoma, we have it in Germany, and the Belges probably don't need anything like that.
I have already found where you can buy it in France, but 10kg: swoon: I'll try to ask at the market in a Polish smoked meat shop. maybe they can sell a little.
Pakat
10 kg of salt is enough for your whole life ...
Buy in small packages of 200 - 500 grams, depending on the nitrite content in it ...
Ikra
Mirabel, well, it means that you need to go to the Czech Republic or Germany at your leisure for this salt and buy it for the rest of your life.
Pakat
It spoils, oxidizes, there is some kind of shelf life, it is better to bribe fresh ...
Mirabel
Irina, Yes Yes! we often visit Germany, but have not yet reached the Czech Republic.
Pakat
In Germany you can buy it without any problems, they make sausage everywhere ...
Yes, and along the way, it will come out cheaper, there is no need to go clutch ...
Ikra
Pakat, in the Czech Republic it is sold in foil bags. But I specifically bought only three bags so that there was a reason to tell my husband, as the main consumer of sausage: "It's over!" I mean, it's time to go for salt
The main thing is that no one let it slip that it can be obtained from us
jan4ik-70
Pakat, do you gradually raise the temperature in the oven or set it to 190F at once?
Does broth happen?
Pakat
I put the ham maker in a cold oven and immediately put it at 190F, so it slowly rises ...
There is a broth, usually a little, it depends on the fat content of the mixture and its consistency ...
jan4ik-70
And if you add oatmeal, will they absorb the broth?

In Belobok, I managed only once without broth by some miracle. I usually make chicken ham - pieces + minced meat.At first I cooked in a multicooker, then in a gas oven with an open door. It was all wrong. Now I bought a stove with an electric oven. The first time it turned out great, the second time a lot of broth. Once the meat from the legs and chicken fillet, 2 times separated the chicken meat from the bones, cut it, and twisted the skin and fat. The broth was most likely due to fat. Maybe you need to add something? Soy protein is added in production. I do not want. What is there, starch, milk powder, oatmeal? What do you think?
P.S. It is optimal, of course, to learn without broth
Pakat
I add instant oatmeal, which stabilizes the mixture by absorbing excess fat ...
jan4ik-70
Thank you! I'll try.
P.S. I have been using your recipes for a long time, even from the Multicooker. Stew, fish with vegetables ... Everything is ingenious, just Thank you, Pakat!
Allika
Pakat, tell me, do the cereals feel sweat in the ham? I read your recipes before, but I didn’t notice the cereals ... or maybe I didn’t pay attention ... As I understand it, you need to add a little of them?
Pakat
Clouds move gloomily over Cupid, the edge of the harsh silence surrounds ...
I added flakes up to 100 grams, they are not felt, start adding a little, then you will see for yourself, but you don't have to add if you don't like it ...
Ikra
I added rolled oats to Sunday ham from chicken thighs without skin ... well, a generous handful of 700 g of meat in small pieces. In general, nothing is visible in the finished product, but delicious-ahh! I don’t know why, but something so gentle appeared in the structure. True, the broth was not absorbed.
Next time I'll add even more. I have nothing against rolled oats in ham.
Moreover, the Irish generously put it in haggis, and this is a culinary folk masterpiece sung by Burns
Pakat
I do not believe!
Photo where?
Ikra
Pakat, in the evening my husband will ask to photograph the remains if he does not eat them before my arrival. I come home from work later, and usually "victims and destruction" happen in the refrigerator
Ikra
I did it! Here's my ham. Although this time not exactly ham, but rather chicken roll. There was little time, so I cooked for an hour and a half at a temperature of 90-100 degrees.
In the composition - meat of chicken thighs (about 700 g, package), cut into small random pieces, a handful of rolled oats, a handful of dried sweet pepper, curry seasoning from the Kamisovsky mill, butcher's salt (about 1 tablespoon under the knife), and about 100 ml marinade from olives. All this night was pickled and pressed in a ham from Teskoma.

Homemade ham without swine (cook with Pakat)
Creamy
Ikra, Irina, the photo is not visible! Hurray, it appeared! Critical Ham!
Ikra
CreamyThank you. It turned out tasty, Hercules turned out to be in the subject.
Allika
Pakat, Thank you so much! Tomorrow I’m going to create, so I’ll add ... The clouds over Cupid are not gloomy (the Chinese are our "brothers"), but the fact that the edge is harsh, that's for sure ...
Pakat
The Chinese are such brothers that they can't get sick of enemies ...
The clouds are gloomy, he was born there, in Khabarovsk, only they took me away from my father when I walked under the table ...
Allika
No, now everything is different ... the Chinese in our city are dark ... You were taken from Khabarovsk, and I was brought to Blagoveshchensk in 1979 (before that, my last place of stay was Poland) ... this is how it happens ...
mowgli
Tell me, have you added nitrite salt, and then you need minced meat in a ham maker? Or is it possible in a bowl to ripen the meat, and then beat it to the threads and pack it? how is it correct? what is the algorithm of actions?
Pakat
I mix thoroughly, for 20 minutes in a food processor, minced meat, salt and spices, then I stuff the ham and set it to ripen, it's more convenient for me ...
Someone, it seems Countryman, lets it ripen in the refrigerator, in a basin, then stuffs it, which means it's more convenient for him. Try, find your way, because everyone, in their own way, goes crazy ...
mowgli
wow thanks! then there is no difference
Pakat
Homemade ham without swine (cook with Pakat)
Ham - Chicken Legs (Legs)
Meat, chicken legs 1120 grams, large chunks, nitrite salt, spices, 50 grams of oatmeal, instant, 20 minutes stirring, stuffed with "Avgeiger", 48 hours in a refrigerator, 3.5 hours in an oven 190 F, chilled, overnight cold and fresh, delicious Sunday ham for breakfast ...
jan4ik-70
Chicken and turkey ham. With oat flakes
It turned out delicious and without broth edema
Pakat, thanks for the science!
jan4ik-70
Here is my ham
Homemade ham without swine (cook with Pakat)
Pakat
Fine! Eat to your health!
Pakat
Homemade ham without swine (cook with Pakat)
Ham 100% Chicken breast ...
1280 grams of chicken breast, cut into 1.5 - 2 cm pieces, nitrite salt, spices, ice water, stirring for 20 minutes, stuffed Beloboku, 48 hours in a refrigerator, 3.5 hours in an oven, 190 F, chilled, overnight cold and as always for breakfast, delicious ham ...
Pakat
Homemade ham without swine (cook with Pakat)
Amateur chicken ham.
2 pounds, 908 grams of minced chicken, 136 grams of beef fat, small chunks, nitrite salt, spices, ice water, stirring for 20 minutes, stuffed Avgeiger, 48 hours in a refrigerator, 3.5 hours in an oven at 190 F, chilled, overnight cold and breakfast with fresh, tasty ham ...
Pakat
Homemade ham without swine (cook with Pakat)
Veal ham amateur
1 kg minced veal, 200 grams of beef fat, small pieces, nitrite salt, spices, ice water, stirring for 20 minutes, stuffed Beloboku, 48 hours in a refrigerator, 3.5 hours in an oven, at 185 F, chilled, overnight in the cold and delicious ham for breakfast ...
Pakat
Homemade ham without swine (cook with Pakat)
Ham Jubilee
Chicken breast in pieces, 420 grams, lamb in pieces, 410 grams, beef in pieces, 500 grams, nitrite salt, spices, ice water, stirring for 20 minutes, stuffed Beloboku all the way, 48 hours in a refrigerator, 3.5 hours in an oven, 190 F, chill and cold overnight. And for breakfast, fresh ham ...
Pakat
Homemade ham without swine (cook with Pakat)
Summer is all, summer is all, summer is over ...
You can light the oven and make ham. I took a photo of the rest, less than half, before that the cameraman did not want to shoot ...
100% Beef ham!
976 grams of beef, cut into strips, nitrite salt, spices, ice,
20 minutes stirring, stuffed Avgeiger, 60 hours in a hunger, 3.5 hours in an oven, chilling, overnight cold and ham in the morning ...
gala10
Ahhh ... I first came across this topic, and ...
Paul, this is a storehouse of knowledge, skills and experience. Thank you!!! Will be studying.
And I only made ham once, and even then without a ham ...
Vinokurova
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there were leftovers, less than half, before that the cameraman did not want to shoot ...
Yes, I would also say that I did not take the camera down ... you need to eat yummy ...
Paul, and how to cut it in strips ?. across or along the grain? how thick ... I look the minced meat is mixed cool !. not even a piece is visible ... but was there fat on the beef ?. Where did the beauty come from?
Pakat
I don't even know, we have a huge supermarket, there is a great meat department, I buy ready-made there, it's a pity it's too far away, it's not easy to go there ... Mixed and pressed well, pure beef, only occasionally, pieces of fat flash ...
Vinokurova
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th ... Mixed and pressed well, clean beef, only occasionally, pieces of fat flicker ...
It looks like a cervelat ... I really liked it ..
francevna
A very necessary topic, I subscribe.
Pakat
You are welcome, to our hut ...

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