fannyfra
Tell me, can anyone have already tried it, the Americans Kenmore have a bread maker - just a twin. Have you tried to buy buckets from her?
fannyfra
Another question about the buckets has arisen: are buckets from different models interchangeable? That is, is it possible to fully use a bucket from one HP in another oven? I found buckets under 450 and under 250/256, can they be in my 350?
JALINA
Excuse me, but where did you find the bucket for 450! I have been looking for a long time, but unsuccessfully. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place?
9oksana9

Quote: JALINA

where did you find the 450 bucket!
in our Eldorado, Ukraine, Odessa, there are already round shapes for bm450. for 200 UAH like
9oksana9
Quote: fannyfra

found buckets under 450 and under 250/256, can they be in my 350?

for vm350 there is a form under 350, I saw it live. but I think you can try. directly in the seller's store ask to try), suddenly it will fit
Qween
Quote: fannyfra

I found buckets under 450 and under 250/256, can they be in my 350?

I tried to attach a bucket from 250/256 to 350 - it doesn't fit.
vittorio70
I see a lot of members of the forum here from Ukraine.
Is there someone from Dnipro? Have you seen a round bucket in Dnepropetrovsk?

There are acquaintances there, they can buy and send them to Moscow. But asking them is not very convenient to look for, and the search in and-no stores did not give any result. Maybe in off-line stores of household appliances there is somewhere ..

Also, a spare rectangular one is interested in - suddenly it is sold somewhere in the Dnieper, inform plizz
Thank you
alexstr
Yesterday I bought myself a 450 round bucket for Kenwood for 202 UAH in a Zaporozhye online store. In the afternoon I ordered icq on ICQ, and in the evening they already brought it in a package (even with a stirrer). You may not find it on the site, but talk to the manager in ICQ and order - they have delivery in Ukraine!
vittorio70
Quote: alexstr

Yesterday I bought myself a 450 round bucket for Kenwood for 202 UAH in a Zaporozhye online store. In the afternoon I ordered it on ICQ, and in the evening they already brought it in a package (even with a stirrer). You may not find it on the site, but talk to the manager in ICQ and order - they have delivery in Ukraine!

Thank you!
Quote: alexstr

Yesterday I bought myself a 450 round bucket for Kenwood for 202 UAH in a Zaporozhye online store. In the afternoon I ordered icq on ICQ, and in the evening they already brought it in a package (even with a stirrer). You may not find it on the site, but talk to the manager in ICQ and order - they have delivery in Ukraine!

Thank you!
Pinky
Hello. I'm a completely green newbie on the forum, just learning to communicate. I see people are looking for round buckets for the Kenwoods. Here is a whole bunch of 🔗... See if it will suit someone. I personally supervised myself for the VM-350. Bucket with a shovel-352 UAH Sorry, I haven't learned how to insert a direct link yet. 🔗... And on this site there are round buckets for 197 UAH, but without a spatula. It's all in Kiev.
sazalexter
Pinky You did everything right! Direct links to external resources here on the forum are prohibited
JD
Good time everyone! Are you accepting another Kenwood 350 owner?
I bought the HP together with a gift - a form for round bread. But, probably, with joy, my brains were completely swollen - I just can't fix it inside - there is a completely different mount. Please, who did it - tell us how, pliiz.
Nat_ka
Quote: JD

Good time everyone! Are you accepting another Kenwood 350 owner?
I bought the HP together with a gift - a form for round bread. But, probably, my brains were completely swollen with joy - I just can't fix it inside - there is a completely different mount. Please, who did it - tell us how, pliiz.

Apparently the bucket is not for this model of bread machine. In the store you were slightly deceived.
JD
On the packaging it is written that the bucket is for the VM350 model, the bucket model is AW51000. Now I looked at the links from this topic - yes, one thing on the box, but another inside.
Pinky
People, help out! Where to knock with such a problem. From my bucket to Kenwood 350, the rotation shaft began to fall out. It seems that such a rubber pad does not hold it inside the bucket. During the work of the HP, there was an extra knock and cases of the bucket jumping out during mixing became more frequent. Probably because he dangles.If desired, I can completely remove it from the outside. Has anyone had such a problem what to do! Sorry for the stove!
Qween
Pinky, and you have a stove not under warranty?
My first Kenwood-350 was changed under warranty when the bucket broke.
Pinky
Quote: Qween

Pinky, and you have a stove not under warranty?
My first Kenwood-350 was changed under warranty when the bucket broke.
No, my stove is in its fourth year, so no guarantee. Tomorrow I'll go to the service center, what they say there. I understand that here you just need to change the oil seal, but, they say, it is with them that the problem is, there is nowhere to buy. So I'm still without homemade bread, It's a shame, I worked like a watch for three years, there were no problems and baked perfectly.
Qween
Yes, Pinky, the stove that was changed had problems with the oil seal. Couldn't repair it.
I wrote to you in a personal note.
stella-z
and where did you buy it in the end? I can not get through to the service center
stella-z
Dmitry, have you found a stirrer? It's like a little knife, right? I have a different model, but I also need a knife ...
stella-z
Can you please tell me the service center in Moscow, the dough mixer knife is lost. Thank you in advance!
qwerty #
Something I am tormented by vague doubts that the buckets for KENWOOD are a purely Ukrainian development. On the manufacturer's website, such products are available only for Ukraine. So you can only buy there, and then ask your friends to forward.
JD
: kolobok: The problem with the bucket was solved easier than I thought. I called the Kenwood office in Lithuania, it turns out that this problem is known, the buckets were mixed up by the supplier at the factory. And there were a lot of those who needed to exchange the bucket. I exchanged it without any questions.
Pelaga
Help please ... The bucket is broken. .. we sit without bread ... very sad ... phoned the services that I found ... in one the number was dialed incorrectly ... in the other (M video) we have to go to order ... they can't even say the price ... I can't find a list of services (a year and a half and the move .. could not stand it ... got lost) ... please help ... where else to knock ... so that you can call. order and find out the price ... if there is such a topic, poke your nose please ... thank you all in advance ...
sazalexter
Pelaga Here is a list of services, catch 🔗
Pelaga
Thank you! .... trying ....
Angelinka
Pelaga, did you manage to buy a bucket? I can't find it in St. Petersburg, I phoned the services from the website, the result is zero, only M Video has not yet been reached.
Pelaga
I have not been able to buy yet ... not all the bodies. phoned ... I'll take a minute ... three kids ... the weather ... don't let me do anything with electricity ...
Pelaga
: D called the Tver service and a square bucket ... the issue price is 1100 rubles. wait 2 weeks ....: beach: maybe more ...
this is due to the fact that it is already Tver and not Moscow ... and if you go from Odintsovo to Moscow for him, then money and time ... (and in Tver the mother-in-law is a puzzle)
What did you buy a square bucket for? Or did you just order a round new one? ...
Mikhailo
If a bucket has flowed, then do not despair. In most cases, a worn oil seal is the cause. These native Kenwood oil seals are of very poor quality. Under the oil seal on the axle there is a retaining ring, which, if lost, can be found in household markets. Its diameter is 8 mm. But the oil seal ... It has interesting dimensions that are not defined by GOST (8X18X6). Nevertheless, I have an extra gland for the bucket of the Kenwood 450 bread machine. It is black, heat-resistant rubber, one-sided, spring-loaded. I can concede at a reasonable price 100 rubles, I am in the VDNKh area. In this case, the price of the issue decreases sharply from the purchase of a new bucket. (100 rubles for an oil seal + 10 rubles for 2 retaining rings + 10 rubles for a copper gasket, well, it is not difficult to press the oil seal into place. For example, I shoved it into place with a wooden crush).
Mikhailo
The oil seal is new, Russian, passed the full test course. White bread, rye bread was baked, dough for dumplings was mixed, orange and lemon jam was cooked. The gland is strong and resistant, does not let a drop of moisture through !!!
The last test remains. Cook the team hodgepodge.
Sandra
Quote: Marusya29


Here is an Internet store, I took it there myself (a dough mixer is included with the bucket) and you will be happy there is still a round bucket there I ordered ~ 1500 re. And happiness will buit you.
🔗
There is no happiness! The order was placed on 01/17/11. They called on 01/18/11, they promised to deliver the round bucket by 01/22/11. (in the shopping center "Cheryomushki")! On January 23, it turns out that the bucket has not arrived in the order. Today (January 24), after my repeated call to the office, "manager" Evgeny said that there were no buckets in the warehouse, the delivery time was 3 months or more, and so on, but what was promised on January 18 was complete nonsense, no one knows nothing and is not responsible !!! SUMMARY: there is no point in contacting this OFFICE, they will still lie! I think ordering in Ukraine seems to be even safer than in 🔗!!! "Fu" - to this site, they fool our brother there as users!

The first time they called themselves, they answered my long meticulous questions about the availability in the warehouse categorically in the affirmative, such as "yes, I'm sure", "absolutely definitely in the warehouse", "no, definitely not in a single copy, there are a lot of them", etc. By the way, the order was not delivered at all (besides the bucket, I also ordered a disc for the Kenwood combine), although the order number appeared in the invoices, but not with a bucket and a disc, but with some kind of knife for a type of equipment unknown to me. After my call, another manager informed me that neither he and no one knew anything about my order and was not responsible for anything, and in general it was my own fault: “it means you did not send the order; you made a mistake in the order; ... ", and so on. My statement that I received confirmation of my order to your email, and even more so, the call of their manager was simply ignored!
What does this mean? At least - about the complete carelessness of employees, apparently with the tacit connivance of the authorities, and complete irresponsibility !!!
By the way, I have no complaints about the branch in the shopping center "Cheryomushki", rather the opposite: although there was no bucket, the disks were picked up.
Mikhailo
Yeah. To me, too, something this narrow gap opposite the toilet in Cheryomushki seemed suspicious, as did the eternally closed shop on the 3rd floor of Gorbushka. But on the 1st floor of the same Gorbushka, a woman from a very tiny shop showed a bucket from a completely different stove, 1500 rubles each. and swore that the bucket fits "like a glove. We even took these buckets from above for the 450s." He looked at the bottom collar. It is solid, while on the 450th it is not a collar, but 4 protrusions in the lower part. This is to insert the bucket, turn it and fix it with these protrusions. Of course, I didn’t throw thousands on dubious buckets, but realized that the desk was not so hot. Provides spare parts for everything from spaceships to nanotechnology, well, the size of a molecule, mechanisms. It is clear that my bucket will get lost there, like a needle in a haystack or a molecule in a spaceship.
And I also asked in this office for a cover for Kenwood-450. Such a "deficit" was never there. Mine was cracked and the glass, the one that is bulletproof, heat-resistant and super-transparent, crumbled to small smithereens, like a mirror from the "Snow Queen" and one of the fragments hit my heart, making it callous, my gaze stern, and my hands strong. Since the firm cover does not shine for me, I had to resort to the soldier's ingenuity. I went to the construction market, begged from the men for one tile with a chipped corner, I had to drill holes in it for the handle and for the mount where the dispenser is. There, by the way, there are only two holes and 2 under the handle. A ceramic tile is picked with a simple screwdriver. Screwed, delivered. I thought the tiles would crack from the heat. Nothing like this. But the trouble is, it did not become visible how the dough rises and the crust turns red. AND JOKE WITH HIM !!! I MADE A COVER FOR MYSELF NOT FOR 1200 RUBLES, but almost for nothing. Well, only now I had to buy a screwdriver for 50 rubles in order to pick in the ceramics. They say that special hand-held drills for ceramics are on sale, but for some reason I did not find them, and I felt sorry for 450 rubles for such a drill. Yes, I almost forgot. The tile should be Shakhtinskaya, 6 mm thick. You can, of course, take 8 mm, but you have to shoot 2 mm, and this is already difficult and a completely different song.
So that's what we need companies like that online store for! So that we, hardened in heart, do everything ourselves. And customs duties and everything else that usually hinders talented dancers are just excuses. I bake bread and am happy with my tuned stove. HERE.
Shl. Now my bread maker looks like a minicamine.
Angelinka
Everything is dull with me with a bucket, and on this site (I called, they said to wait again for 2-3 months) and I can't find it in Ukraine, it's also not available ...
I just want to use the tips Mikhailo, but a layer of Teflon "scrubbed" by the kneader near the bucket ...
Rina
Quote: Sandra

I think ordering in Ukraine seems to be even safer than in ...........
Sandra, now there should be a cargo of TM Delongee and Kenwood arriving in Ukraine, it is possible that there will be buckets (information obtained when searching for Kenwood equipment - shops "at a low start").

Mikhailo
Quote: Angelinka

Everything is dull with me with a bucket, and on this site (I called, they said to wait again for 2-3 months) and I can't find it in Ukraine, it's also not available ...
I just want to use the tips Mikhailo, but a layer of Teflon "scrubbed" by the kneader near the bucket ...

Well, for a long time I didn't have to be persuaded to fork out for one more practical piece of advice.

First of all, let's turn to the Great Soviet Encyclopedia (TSB) and read what TEFLON is.

Teflon, a trade name for polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE-4) manufactured in the United States; see Fluoroplastics.

Now in the same place, in the TSB, we are looking at fluoroplastics.

Fluoroplastics, the technical name adopted in the USSR for fluorine-containing plastics, which are homopolymers of fluorine derivatives of ethylene and their copolymers, for example, with other fluorine derivatives of olefins, olefins, perfluoroalkyl vinyl ethers. Of greatest importance are polytetrafluoroethylene (85% of the world production of all F.) and polytrifluorochlorethylene, white crystalline polymers characterized by high chemical resistance, thermal, frost, and weather resistance, a valuable set of physical properties, and incombustibility.
Polytetrafluoroethylene, [—CF2 — CF2—] n, molecular weight 5 × 105–2 × 106, density about 2.2 g / cm3 (20 ° C). Outperforms platinum, quartz, graphite and all synthetic materials in chemical resistance; resistant to the action of strong oxidants, reducing agents, acids, alkalis, organic solvents, it is destroyed only by alkali metals melted or dissolved in liquid ammonia, as well as gaseous fluorine and chlorine trifluoride (at temperatures of about 150 ° C). In polyfluorinated hydrocarbons, it begins to swell at temperatures above 327 ° C. Polytetrafluoroethylene is characterized by a tensile strength of 14-35 MN / m2, or 140-350 kgf / cm2, a relative elongation of 250-500%, exceptionally high dielectric properties (the tangent of the dielectric loss angle at 60 Hz is 1 MHz 0.0002-0.00025) , almost independent of frequency and temperature, high arc resistance (250 sec). It does not change in water, liquid fuels and oils, it is resistant to tropical climates, to the action of fungi; physiologically inert. Retains a certain elasticity at temperatures down to - 269 ° C; possesses cold flow under load and low adhesion, not resistant to radiation. Upon melting (327 ° С), the polymer becomes transparent and, without passing into a viscous-flow state, decomposes at 415 ° С
(Lit .: Fluoropolymers, per, from English, M., 1975; Encyclopedia of Polymers, vol. 3, M., 1977.
S. V. Sokolov.)

Yeah, now the picture is clearing up. We go to the construction market and are looking for fluoroplastic mastic or sealant. Well, in Moscow, they often offer sealant in small 0.2 kg cans Abris-mastic at a price of 20 to 80 rubles.

Now we extract the oil seal, make the mechanical part, if necessary, straighten the bucket with a wooden or fluoroplastic (again) hammer and the chemical part - we replace the American Teflon scrubbed with a dough mixer with domestic Abris-mastic or any other fluoroplastic. We wait 24 hours until complete drying and bake for health.
By the way, in the same place, in the TSB, it is said that the more popular silicone glue-mastics do not interact with Teflon, so the use of silicone is a waste of time and nerves.
SupercoW
Quote: Mikhailo

Yeah, now the picture is clearing up. We go to the construction market and are looking for fluoroplastic mastic or sealant. Well, in Moscow, they often offer sealant in small 0.2 kg cans Abris-mastic at a price of 20 to 80 rubles.

Now we extract the oil seal, make the mechanical part, if necessary, straighten the bucket with a wooden or fluoroplastic (again) hammer and the chemical part - we replace the American Teflon scrubbed with a dough mixer with domestic Abris-mastic or any other fluoroplastic. We wait 24 hours until it dries completely and bake to health.
did I understand correctly? in such a simple way you can revive any teflon coating ???
Rina
SupercoW, theoretically yes, but practically - I would be afraid to use "non-food" materials for parts that come into contact with food, and even more so they heat up. The problem is in possible additives to such mastics.
SupercoW
Quote: Rina72

SupercoW, theoretically yes, but practically - I would be afraid to use "non-food" materials for parts that come into contact with food, and even more so they heat up. The problem is in possible additives to such mastics.
oh, and I wanted so much ... it’s the buckets to HP and MV would become practically indestructible
sazalexter
Quote: SupercoW

did I understand correctly? in such a simple way you can revive any teflon coating ???
So far, only the Tomsk firm Sibovar is seriously engaged in this.
Mikhailo
Quote: sazalexter

Mikhailo Welcam, as they say in our regiment has arrived

Welcam, Sazalexter, is delighted to be accepted as a young addition to your illustrious regiment. I hope, after completing the course of a young fighter, not to let the high rank down, and proudly carry the banner forward to victory.

I have already read these instructions for repairing buckets for Mules for a long time. Compared to Kenwood, the Mulinex bucket is a synchrophasatron next to a poker. Kenwood is simpler. That is why I labored to share my experience.
Still, I'm glad I was accepted. Thank you. At the same time, I congratulate you on the last day of lifting the blockade of Leningrad.

Quote: sazalexter

So far, only the Tomsk firm Sibovar is seriously engaged in this.

Why only Tomsk? A lot of different firms and firms are engaged in the restoration of Teflon coatings, not all, however, adequate, under some casinos can disguise and a brothel selling heroin. But in Moscow alone there are more than a dozen of them.

And as for the restoration of any Teflon coatings - there is a psychological question. I would, instead of restoring Teflon in a frying pan, buy a new one for 150 rubles. in Ashan.
Mikhailo
But small "cuts" of Teflon on a bucket are best treated with fluoroplastic mastic. By the way, any additives to mastics, as a rule, serve not to deteriorate the properties of mastics, but to improve. For example, improving heat and cold resistance, or, say, to accelerate solidification. By itself, fluoroplastic mastic does not interact with any products. In the 80s, when pans with Teflon coating had just appeared in the USSR, there was already a controversy in world science about the harmful effects of Teflon on human health. The controversy is still going on and scientists have not found any consensus, as well as consensus in the dispute about the dangers of microwaves. I think that our grandchildren will not wait for the results of scientific discussions. In the meantime, scientists argue, we calmly use Teflon dishes, baking dishes, water pipes and many other PTFE products.
Rina
Gentlemen, taking off my hat. There are several firms that restore Teflon coatings on food equipment, even in Ukraine. True, they do not work with small customers, but so far no one has addressed them with these questions! So there is hope ...
sandegor
So no one could buy a bucket for the kenwood bm 350?
I have a bread maker for a year. Works every other day, sometimes every day.
The shaft is already playing well. From under the stuffing box inside the bucket, in small quantities, a brown mass with a rusty smell is released.
How to do without a bread maker, I can't imagine! It seems that I can no longer eat store bread.
sandegor
Earlier they wrote that there are buckets on the site, but in reality, they are not available, and it is not known whether there will be.
In general, never, no one unsubscribed that they say they bought a bucket there, there, at such and such a price ...
sandegor
Sorry. that threw you off balance. Now I am confident in myself and will boldly place an order. Thank you!
sandegor
I've already emailed them. The fact is that, according to the method of fastening, there are two types of buckets in the stove. And from the photo posted on the site, it is difficult to understand. I need a bucket with a plate in the upper part on the sides.
Here, I'm waiting for an answer from them ...
sandegor
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