Aygul
Quote: Elena Br

That's all right. Now we are at a stage where you can make adjustments, so I ask you to write your wishes for the device. What programs should be mandatory, with what parameters. Wishes for the configuration, body, body color, instructions.
Since a small pressure cooker has not yet worked out, the desired characteristics for a small simply multicooker

Required programs:

Rice / Buckwheat / Groats as you like it, name it - touch mode, automatic, so that he decides himself when ready, for cooking side dishes
Pilaf - automatic, with frying at the end, for many dishes, not only for the pilaf itself
Milk porridge - very important! It is advisable to set some estimated time at 0.5 mst of cereal, so as not to think about how much to bet.
Extinguishing - delicate, will suit you from 1 hour in 20 minute increments.
Frying - the temperature is at least 150 degrees (and if there is a division into Vegetables, Fish, Meat, it’s generally excellent!), you can do it without setting the time, let yourself be fried / fried, turn it off when necessary
Bakery products - from 35 minutes to 1.5 hours. with a good temperature from 130 degrees
Steaming - not necessary, if it is Manual, but if not, then the time report should not start immediately, but from the moment the water boils. And, okay, let it be, sometimes you need to quickly boil something, for example, water for pasta, or milk for semolina.
Soup - for example, for mothers with small children, for whom it is necessary to separately prepare small portions of dietary soup (and the whole family, for example, eats peppered dishes). This mode is relevant to me.
Disable Heating - optional. Better yet Turning on the Heating optional
Delay Start
Manual - at least 3-stage (but 3 will suit), and the time report should go when the required temperature is set, from 25 degrees in 5 steps.
If it is manual, then yogurt / dough / simmering, for example, will not be needed, it will be convenient to put it on the Manual

In general, further requests for modes will depend on the presence / absence of the Manual mode.

Naturally, the ability to change the time on all programs, except for the automatic Rice / Buckwheat / Groats, not only in the direction of increasing, but also decreasing (reasonable), initially so that the recommended (most used) time in this mode is set.

Equipment.

Bowl good quality! Possibility to buy an extra bowl.
Glass needed (really, suddenly for someone it will be the first multicooker).
Silicone spoon put immediately (preferably).
Bottom stand for Steaming or Manual for puddings, for example (not only for its intended purpose).
Drip tray

Housing

The multicooker itself, so that it takes up as little space as possible, that is, the maximum minimum volume of the multicooker)
Carrying handle, separate or integrated into the lid
Good fastening of the wire in the multicooker (not an electrician)
Easy to remove and wash valve
Removable cover for washing

Body color - any, with a choice) I really like the colors 37501, and most of all Champagne is golden (this is my personal preference)

InstructionsI think it will be good as usual! With a table by modes (time, temperature) and an adequate recipe book with pictures.

If anything else I remember / come up with, I will add
Oca
Quote: lemusik

The minimum temperature is 25 degrees, the maximum is the maximum possible.
Eh, let's lower the minimum to -5C, there will be a multicooker with a refrigerator function
And here's another! I almost forgot! Is it possible to "attach a bucket from a bread machine" to a multicooker or make a bowl with a rotating spatula ??? Pros from this: a) it will be possible to bake square cupcakes, b) it will be possible to stir milk porridge, c) preserves, jams, pastry creams, fried potatoes... and with a refrigerator, and ice cream to do this is how I dreamed.
mumi
Quote: steolin

why do many people want a ceramic bowl? it seems to start to stick to it faster, maybe a coating like 37501 will be better?
Because even high quality Teflon is harmful. Fluoropolymer non-stick coatings all emit harmful substances when heated. It's just that a high-quality coating does not immediately scratch and does not peel off in shreds, like cheap.
Ceramics can not be hit, pricked, dropped, and also not worth scraping with metal. But by itself, it is more resistant to wear from the usual friction of plastic, silicone and solid products and is harmless when heated. And nothing sticks to her. You can wash off fried and water.
Now there are a lot of dishes with such a coating, with an eco prefix and overpriced from this. But cooking in it is very convenient.


And in a small boy, adult functionality would be important, as in 502, always with yogurt and simmering at a low temperature, and even without manual mode, 37502 is very good without it.
Better is the option that minimizes the price. : girl_red: Within 3 sput they would fly like cakes, but I suspect there will be more. Purely psychologically paying a lot for a SMALL saucepan ...
mumi
By the way, I was talking about the slow cooker with the mothers of two teenage boys. At the words of five liters (I did not even talk about the usable volume of 3 liters), they rolled their eyes as if on command and said - what are you, 7 liters and that will not be enough! So here's another field for assortment growth
Zingy
yes-ah-ah-ah-ah ...: girl_in_dreams: dream, bye

mode for cereals - auto - before water evaporation
milk porridge! with a delay - at least 0.5 m. stack. (as Aygul wrote) the minimum time is 10 minutes, in increments of 5 minutes
frying - with the separation of vegetables / fish / meat - with a minimum time of 10 minutes and a further step of 10 minutes, 130 * -160 *
baking - auto - min. time 30 minutes
steam - with a minimum time of 10 minutes (from boiling water)
manual - with time setting in 10 minute increments (time from 10 minutes to 10 hours) and temperature setting in 5 * increments (from 25 * and, probably, up to 160 *) - the program can replace "languor", "warming up" , "yogurt" and actively participate in the proofing of the dough

and that would cover the bowl like 37501 and champagne
necessarily a multi-glass and two steamers
a spoon for soup, you can also put it (I like to pour flour on it)

and let the lid open directly!

oh, what am I dreaming about
Sister
Quote: steolin

oh, can I wait with you for the baby too? why do many people want a ceramic bowl? it seems to start to stick to it faster, maybe a coating like 37501 will be better?
I have two multi, one more, the very first 500 seems to be the third year already and to the bowl there are no complaints, like new, but in 501, which is the year of operation, the bowl looks not very good and there are scratches and darkening. Although there are no complaints about the multi itself))
Sister
Quote: Aygul


Easy to remove and wash valve
Removable cover for washing

Removing the cover, I think, is technically not possible, there the cord goes to the sensor in the multitask itself, and then in the cover itself, the temperature sensor is also worth not washing with it.
Sister
Well, I'll dream with everyone
I would like in a small multicolor manual mode from 25C to 180C, or at least up to 160C, with a step of 5C. and three step
Of course, the regime is milk porridge - it seems to me that it is because of this regime that many mothers buy this devac
Soup mode - makes it possible to open and add food, without practically dropping the temperature.
Baking for casseroles, and omelets.
And so that the size is smaller and with a handle, the handle is really a very convenient thing when you carry it everywhere with you
And yet, I am in favor of the ceramic bowl, as I wrote before, experience has shown that its wear resistance is higher than that of a non-stick one.
Manna
Quote: mumi

harmless when heated.
Teflon was also thought so in the first decades.We'll wait 30 years

Quote: mumi

with the prefix eco and inflated prices.
This is its main difference.

Quote: steolin

From here I concluded about the non-stick properties of ceramics ... and read somewhere else on the forum.
This is exactly what happens. "Ceramic" coating is not non-stick (it is not ceramic either), but as soon as its pores become clogged and coke, its "non-stick" is lost. To avoid this, you must first put food, liquids in the bowl and only then heat it.
Elena Br
Good day.
At the moment, it is known for sure that a removable plate will be present. And the multicooker bowl has a non-stick ceramic coating.
Manna
Quote: Elena Br

At the moment, it is known for sure that a removable plate will be present.
This is very good news. Because without a removable part, washing the lid is painful

And the coating of the bowl ... for me, there is not much difference at all: non-stick or "ceramic". The main thing is to have high quality and not subtle
vernisag
Quote: manna

This is very good news. Because without a removable part, it is painful to wash the lid
Why are you so dirtying them that it is painful? I only have condensation mostly.
Vichka
Quote: vernisag

And why are you so dirtying them that it is painful? I only have condensation mostly.
The removable part of the cover cannot even be compared with the non-removable one. Gradually, even from condensation, if you just wipe it, a plaque forms on the lid, which has to be peeled off in a tougher way than just wiping, in any case, this is the case with my mules, where there is no removable part of the lid.
Mrs. Addams
It was I who successfully entered such a Temka in the process of choosing a new multicooker specifically for the future trip. It's good that the cover didn't start sewing ... Maybe it's true, the manufacturer will make it complete with a multicooker.

If, in general terms, without technical characteristics - MOBILE MULTIPLAYER IS VERY NECESSARY: compact, reliable, with a carrying handle and a travel case.

Quote: VS NIKA

Still on the plane to cook porridge, fry sausage ...

Well, I don't know about the plane, but on the ferry it is the most (if not very stormy ...)
Vichka
Quote: Mrs. Addams

Well, I don't know about the plane, but on the ferry it is the most (if not very stormy ...)
It is necessary to dream globally, dreams will materialize ... well, at least something will come true, so you need to dream more than it can possibly come true.
Manna
Quote: VS NIKA

you need to dream more than can possibly come true.
Oh, yes, you already dreamed of a drain both in the cigarette lighter in the car and in the plane No, well, theoretically ... if a multicooker is possible that consumes no more than a soldering iron, then dreams can only come true ... the volume of the bowl (based on from modern technologies) then there will be somewhere 0.5l
Vichka
Quote: manna

Oh, yes, you already dreamed of a drain both in the cigarette lighter in the car and in the plane No, well, theoretically ... if a multicooker is possible that consumes no more than a soldering iron, then dreams can come true
Off topic, but I remembered ...
! 994, bought a land plot, no civilization, children 12 years old, 6 years old and younger, children need to be fed.
The husband made a "taganok", a stand on three legs, a blowtorch for it and a "taganok" a pan, a frying pan, a kettle .... beauty !!! Boiling speed is excellent. Felt so happy. We called this structure Indesite.
Then the mule from the cigarette lighter was just a cosmic fantasy, but now who knows, maybe not?
Manna
Yeah, about the one that is 3 liters (well, and also dreams about a baby for 1.5-2 liters). But by the summer ... and I don't know at what stage the development process is
valushka-s
Quote: Aygul

Since a small pressure cooker has not yet worked out, the desired characteristics for a small simply multicooker

Required programs:

Rice / Buckwheat / Groats as you like it, name it - touch mode, automatic, so that he decides himself when ready, for cooking side dishes
Pilaf - automatic, with frying at the end, for many dishes, not only for the pilaf itself
Milk porridge - very important! It is advisable to set some estimated time at 0.5 mst of cereal, so as not to think about how much to bet.
Extinguishing - delicate, will suit you from 1 hour in 20 minute increments.
Frying - the temperature is at least 150 degrees (and if there is a division into Vegetables, Fish, Meat, it’s generally excellent!), you can do it without setting the time, let yourself be fried / fried, turn it off when necessary
Bakery products - from 35 minutes to 1.5 hours. with a good temperature from 130 degrees
Steaming - not necessary, if it is Manual, but if not, then the time report should not start immediately, but from the moment the water boils. And, okay, let it be, sometimes you need to quickly boil something, for example, water for pasta, or milk for semolina.
Soup - for example, for mothers with small children, for whom it is necessary to separately prepare small portions of dietary soup (and the whole family, for example, eats peppered dishes). This mode is relevant to me.
Disable Heating - optional. Better yet Turning on the Heating optional
Delay Start
Manual - at least 3-stage (but also 3 will suit), and the time report should go when the desired temperature is set, from 25 degrees in 5 steps.
If it is manual, then yogurt / dough / simmering, for example, will not be needed, it will be convenient to put it on the Manual

In general, further requests for modes will depend on the presence / absence of the Manual mode.

Naturally, the ability to change the time on all programs, except for the automatic Rice / Buckwheat / Groats, not only in the direction of increasing, but also decreasing (reasonable), initially so that the recommended (most used) time in this mode was set.

Equipment.

Bowl good quality! Possibility to buy an extra bowl.
Glass needed (really, suddenly for someone it will be the first multicooker).
Silicone spoon put immediately (preferably).
Bottom stand for Steaming or Manual for puddings, for example (not only for its intended purpose).
Drip tray

Housing

The multicooker itself, so that it takes up as little space as possible, that is, the maximum minimum volume of the multicooker)
Carrying handle, separate or integrated into the lid
Good fastening of the wire in the multicooker (not an electrician)
Easy to remove and wash valve
Removable cover for washing

Body color - any, with a choice) I really like the colors 37501, and most of all Champagne is golden (this is my personal preference)

InstructionsI think it will be good as usual! With a table by modes (time, temperature) and an adequate recipe book with pictures.

If anything else I remember / come up with, I will add

I agree with everything, only for me there will or will not be a manual mode, I absolutely do not need programs in it: yogurt, dough and languor!
but I would like to cook for a couple!
any color except poisonous! it is important for me that there is no red-orange! evokes depresnyak
due to the presence of this color, I had to abandon the beautiful cherry 37501.
and of course I would like to be as compact as possible!
hmm, how many people, so many opinions!
Aygul
Quote: valushka-s

I agree with everything, only for me there will or will not be a manual mode, I absolutely do not need programs in it: yogurt, dough and languor!
but I would like to cook for a couple!
any color except poisonous! it is important for me that there is no red-orange! evokes depresnyak
due to the presence of this color, I had to abandon the beautiful cherry 37501.
and of course I would like to be as compact as possible!
hmm, how many people, so many opinions!
valushka-s, yeah, you have 502, of course, you don't need Manual.
Otherwise I agree with you
valushka-s
Aygul
Well, that is a given! there is!
but I don’t use these programs in my dummies and haven’t even tried them.
if yogurt and dough are needed, I have it in my bread maker, but I somehow did not understand the languor mode at all! he is kind of indistinct, not for everybody.
an example of the use of longing is not even in the instructions.
it's just that the main programs are important to me.
but I'm for tame! I think this is what you need, and if necessary, you can set any of these modes.
but the temperature table in the manual is very desirable (it is very useful)!
MariV
About the program "languor" - I use it all the time - to tire onion with carrots for soups-borscht, buckwheat porridge comes to mind on this program.
mumi
Quote: manna

Teflon was also thought so in the first decades.We'll wait 30 years
It depends on who was thinking. Basically, those who get information from advertising, and she, of course, thought about sales. In addition, few people think about the obscure shortcomings of convenient things until anti-advertising takes over.

No one familiar with the properties of fluoropolymers thought or thinks so.
Ceramic is by definition not a fluoropolymer coating. And in 30 years they will not be.
Yes, it does not tolerate much that Teflon does. But here everyone chooses a carcinogen or some caution in using dishes ..

The fact that Teflon is still actively produced is understandable from the same considerations.

As an illustration of the manufacturer's logic.
We (and they) have EDTA compound in almost all cosmetics, including children's dermatological ones. It's Trilon B (sometimes that's what they write). It is a potent carcinogen poison of cumulative action, especially dangerous for women. It was originally used to clean metal oxides, in particular car batteries.
According to the instructions, it is necessary to rinse the parts for a day in running water, use protective equipment during work.
Most of us brush our teeth with him, take baths, make face masks and treat babies for eczema (I myself checked the composition of one expensive "pharmacy" product, like Mustela.
That is, it is completely legal. After all, little by little. To increase the shelf life.
mumi
Quote: valushka-s

Aygul
I somehow did not understand the languor mode! he is kind of indistinct, not for everybody.
an example of the use of longing is not even in the instructions.
it's just that the main programs are important to me.
but I'm for tame!
There is a temperature in the instructions, this is enough for culinary creativity. Like a Russian stove ...
On languishing, the most delicious meat is obtained. Quenching is not quite right. Because of this regime, I bought MV. I ask for the recipe Lazy boiled pork
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However, if there is a manual mode and a small step in temperature and time (5 degrees and 5 minutes), then it is possible without languor. As well as without dough and yogurt. But you will have to attach a recipe book or write examples of high MV modes on paper.

In fact, Brand's representatives would be good to say that it is easy (and therefore cheap) to change or supplement, and what makes production more expensive. Here we would correct the lip roll right away.
For example, it may be easier to transplant the brains of large MVs at a small one by adjusting the time. Then it will simply remain to take from the available ones.
: mail1: Or like this - only manual mode - the price for today is possible from ... p. Such and such a set of machines - .... A set of basic programs (with milk porridge!) And manual mode - ....
Vichka
Quote: mumi

There is a temperature in the instructions, this is enough for culinary creativity. Like a Russian stove ...
On languishing, the most delicious meat is obtained. Quenching is not quite right. Because of this regime, I bought MV. I ask for the recipe
Since I have used the languishing program a lot, I can say that the result is in taste the same, that languishing, that stewing. Simmering is good if meat / chicken is cooked without marinating. During the first hours of simmering, the product will go through this stage, and then everything is the same as in stewing. With the purchase of a slow cooker, I appreciated the difference between simmering in M ​​/ cooking with a ceramic bowl and simmering in a slow cooker, in favor of M / cooking.
Manna
Quote: mumi

Ceramic is by definition not a fluoropolymer coating. And in 30 years they will not be.
Well, yes ... everything is very logical: polyorganosiloxane ("ceramic") coating is not fluoropolymer, and that is why it is safe


All this is both one and the opposite position - just information wars with all the same goals - advertising and anti-advertising. And the experts only refer us to the certificates: “Practically all major manufacturers, and first of all, manufacturers of coatings, carry out safety expertise of products.<...> Therefore, if you buy cookware made by well-known companies with established reputation or cookware that is coated with famous brands, the safety risks are minimal in the case of ceramic coatings and in the case of traditional non-stick coatings based on PTFE. "
Due to the fact that we (consumers) do not have the opportunity to verify all this information ourselves, our "prudence in the use of dishes" is just speculative
Oca
Let me add a little to the topic with the desire to eliminate the dripping of condensate between the bowl and the body. For example, bend the edge of the bowl like enamel mugs or insert a silicone gasket between the bowl and the body. You can also modify the silicone "skirt" on the removable plate, making it look like a kangaroo bag with a hole in the bottom (hopefully explaining it clearly?). Then the condensate, running down the lid, will first fall into the "pocket", and already from the bottom, through the hole, flow out where it should.
Of course, the easiest way is to prevent condensation from forming by turning on the heating element in the lid before the end of the program.
Zingy
the program for modes can be written, adapters for different types of charging can be made
technically it is possible, but can you imagine how much the device will cost?

in fact, Aygul has already written everything and the modes and controls, but in fact: a couple of modes from 37501, a couple of 37502, manual from 502 and our baby will turn out (well, maybe they will borrow something from some model)

the main thing is that we are inventing here and Brand will take this into account (however, as always tries to do it) was available
PS: however, you can make a basic package with the ability to buy additional parts (the same charging) additionally.

girls, I hope I didn’t speak too boringly, I won’t anymore
Tanyulya
Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Aygul, respect and respect.
I want the same then small

I forgot .... I want handles for the bowl and a handle for carrying the multi itself and a double boiler like in Oursonchik 5005.
simfira
Quote: Vasilika


I really want a little cartoon, compact! Yet 37300 is almost as big in size. And I would like to be like a little Panasonic.

I would like a smaller bowl diameter (maybe it will not be a full-size model, but a compact one), I do not like it when milk porridge is smeared along the bottom

the heating off mode is very necessary. You come with the rebz from a walk - you eat boiling water, you still spend some time to cool it down, and so it will cool down even a little bit
lemusik
The removable panel seems to have already been promised).
And the diameter of the bowl for 37300 - how big? Here's an ambush, if so ...
Manna
And where did they get the idea that the size of the diameter of the bottom of the bowl is the same as that of a large one? We were talking above about the body (that the body of the 37300 is not much less than the 37500, etc.), and not about the size of the bowls. Bowls in a smaller diameter 3-liter multicooker. Are there really the same as 5-liter?
lemusik
Quote: manna

Bowls in a smaller diameter 3-liter multicooker. Are there really the same as 5-liter?

There are, oddly enough. The new Panasonic SR-DF101WTQ bowls have the same diameter as the 18th. Only below .... There and multi in width-depth are the same, different only in height.
So I got scared. Well, this option does not suit me at all ...
Vei
Girls, here we are ordering everything, ordering .. And the color, and the size, and the modes, and all this can be stupidly screwed up with one trifle - if, as in the 502 model, there is no energy-independent memory. One second without electricity and all our complex modes fall to zero. And we are left without porridge in the morning, and without baking or pilaf ...

So it is important for me that the baby, and even more so in 6051, has a non-volatile memory !!!
And then in Redmond they have 24 hours (!) Without electricity is not a hindrance, but what about us ??? I have my old granny, she moved the plates on the table, the power cord touched, the contacts went off and FSE !!! I sit there and think about where to start over, because I was there. By the way, this cord also got bogged down - it leaves all the time (((
valushka-s
Quote: Vei

Girls, here we are ordering everything, ordering ..And the color, and the size, and the modes, and all this can be stupidly screwed up with one trifle - if, as in the 502 model, there is no energy-independent memory. One second without electricity and all our complex modes fall to zero. And we are left without porridge in the morning, and without baking or pilaf ...
So it is important for me that the baby, and even more so in 6051, has a non-volatile memory !!!
I agree 100% !!! me sometimes very good Rescues non-volatile memory !!! It is in 37501, and I also met it in my devices.
function you need !!!!
Oca
Quote: valushka-s

function you need !!!!
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I had no idea that it could be otherwise. We turned off the light for a couple of minutes 4 times per hour - the multicooker and HP continued to work as if nothing had happened. That would be a "surprise" for me from electricians
terceliya
As the owner of Brandon 6050))) I have been staring at just a cartoon for a long time, but I have nowhere to put a big one, so this idea with a small compact one is very, very appropriate !!! so I am FOR all Aygul's suggestions. Especially necessary are the modes of rice (for a side dish), milk porridge (they say in a cartoon, after all, it is tastier than in a pressure cooker), and of course MANUAL !!!

In general, Brand is really great !!!! I have never met such customer-oriented manufacturers! And I always advertise these products among my own. On my tip, 5 people have already acquired Brand equipment, 4 of them are 6050 pressure cookers.
Aygul
Denis, very interested in the price question. Because although dreaming is not harmful, it is harmful not to dream, but you have dreamed of a small spaceship, you want the price to be adequate
Denis BR
Good day! It is still impossible to announce any data on the price. But it can be assumed that the price will be acceptable and reasonable.
MariV
Denis,please specify - will it be 3 liters?
Denis BR
Good day! The cubic volume of the bowl will be 3 liters.
Vichka
For one multi st., For example cereals, 3 liters is very suitable. In my Liberton I cook rice porridge from 1 tbsp. 200ml and a 3-liter saucepan are enough.
Manna
It is possible to cook 1.5 cc of rice porridge, and 2 cc in a three-liter mult. And if rice is for a side dish, then all 5mst is possible (but where is it flowing?)
Vichka
Quote: manna


And if rice is for a side dish, then all 5mst is possible (but where is it flowing?)
5 m / st think not worth it. When I cook rice porridge from one of the Mukhinsky st., It turns out an almost full saucepan.
Manna
Vichka, I talked about the side dish from 5mst rice, and not about the porridge And the porridge is max. from 2 mst of rice can be cooked in a 3-liter multi
Vichka
Quote: manna

Vichka, I talked about the side dish from 5mst rice, and not about the porridge And the porridge is max. from 2 mst of rice can be cooked in a 3-liter multi
Who cares?
Manna
Quote: VS NIKA

Who cares?
In the amount of liquid
Vichka
Quote: manna

In the amount of liquid
I cooked 1 kg of rice in 5 liters, I had to turn it off ahead of time, as the rice got useful, but here almost the same thing can happen.
If two tbsp. pour 10 tbsp. liquid, for porridge, the bowl is almost full, and for five tbsp. rice, water, too, 8-10 glasses will be required ..
Manna
I think 5mst is still a lot (manufacturers simply call this figure). I figured it out ... It's ideal to make rice for a side dish up to 3 cc, nevertheless. Total about 1.5 liters and plus an increase in rice in volume.
Vichka
Quote: manna


And I counted porridge not 1: 5, but 1: 3.5 (how I cook)
Well, it depends on which cartoon to cook and who likes what to taste.
I cook in Liberton 1: 6, the porridge is thick right away, but a spoon is worth it.

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