CatNat
hawk, thanks for the tip, and Bastinda in general, that I found out about such a thing
Aygul
Quote: Bast1nda

Aygul, you see, you even cut with a knife. What is horror for me, I can’t use a knife, I don’t know how, apparently, it’s very ugly and thick with me.
So I've spent my whole life with cabbage with a knife so many years of experiments and discoveries in the process that here it is necessary to be wider, and then thinner, but for another it can be narrower, but the thickness can and should be added, ... and cutting methods depending on the freshness / juiciness and density / looseness: girl_in_dreams: Oh, I didn’t even know what a craftsman I was, thanks, now I realize my unnoticed talent for slicing cabbage And only salad I can’t oh, or rather, I couldn’t
Bast1nda
Aygul, well done! They tried to teach me, they showed me directly and wondered, how can you not? Can not be. Maybe girls. I can't normally cut cabbage - I can't. Girlfriend shreds - song! Somehow the head of cabbage lays down and off we go. I just can't put it out, because there is no disgrace to be seen))))))
anna_k
Girls, I'm bragging))))
Bought on a tip hawk myself an extraordinary present))) I bought from vollive

1. De Buyer Mandolina Swing Pro (grabbed the last one).
What hooked: All nozzles are very compactly stored inside the case, cutting options: straight, corrugation, julienne 2,4,7,10 mm. There is a holder for convenient cutting (moreover, you can immediately cut into a convenient bowl). Dishwasher safe.
The unit is of a decent size, but it seems to be no more than a v-prima burner (especially when you consider that tabs and sudoku are stored there separately).

2. De Buyer Kobra (my darling)
At first I thought that I didn't need it at all, there is a slicing function in swing mandolin, prima berner, giant and even in a slicer (which I used three times).
But as she took it in her hand, she could not resist buying. The handle is thick, it is convenient to hold, the thickness is adjusted stepwise, with a screw, that is, there are many options (in the review I saw that 7, in real life it seemed more). The weight of the vegetable cutter is comfortable for me, there are anti-slip legs at the bottom, the back of the food falls freely and does not cling to anything (unlike the Berner).

Here are both of my toys in the photo:
Different vegetable cutters (Nayser Diser, Alligator, etc.)

Feels like I will use Cobra much more often. Swing is still big and solid, it is needed for big things)))
The entire collection from Berner will go to the annex, apparently ... As for the giant in my thoughts, I did not make friends with him ...

anna_k
By the way, De buyer Viper is sold in Metro for 6599, as far as I understand, this is the Berner V-Prima principle, only with full-fledged cubes (with V-shaped knives).

This is a comparison of the Cobra to the Giant
Different vegetable cutters (Nayser Diser, Alligator, etc.)
Marfusha5
anna_k, congratulations on your new toy) Let it serve for many years. Seems like a good thing. Why didn't you make friends with the Giant, Anyut? I still think about him whether he needs me or not))))
anna_k
Thank you! Unplanned pleasures, but very pleasant.
Yes, very high quality !!!

With a giant, everything is complicated - most likely, I just have crooked hands)))) I can only cut cabbage in one direction (away from myself), because if I do it back and forth, then somehow everything is scattered in pieces and stratified. Not at all like in the video.
The onion on the main nozzle also failed to cut, both with and without a holder. For some reason, it was torn in ugly pieces.
In general, it just doesn't work.
But on the V-shaped nozzle, everything rubs without problems. Perhaps because I was very used to her on the Berner. The Korean carrot attachment is great too, but the fine grater is wonderful! The cheese rubs perfectly and very quickly! And practically nothing stuck to the back.
It is convenient to store it, it practically does not take up space.
In general, when it is there is good, when not, it is also normal ... I just temporarily live without basic kitchen gadgets (we have renovations at home, and my mother-in-law and I have a child), the giant helps out. And at home, with all my fleet of equipment, you can do it. But in general it is small and always at hand ...
Twig
Girls, today I finally played with de Bayer.
Nuuuu, the giant is dearer to me, honestly.
He has a huge advantage - simplicity and compactness. And the ease of changing attachments and washing.
if the giant still had a large (beet) and fringed (potato) nozzle, he wouldn’t have a price.

I'm afraid of mandolin and even raw vegetables (I grated carrots) are hard to cut. The cobra and viper have V-shaped blades, where the vegetable slips smoother, and in mandolin swing it rests against the blade, which is why it is difficult to slide.

De Bayer makes cutting more beautiful, to summarize, both devices are needed, but the giant is nicer to me.
Marfusha5
Everything is clear, Anyut. Thank you very much for such a good explanation. I'll think...
Bast1nda
Marfusha5, debyer and giant are different. I have both and they are both for different purposes. Let's admit potatoes in round pieces on a casserole - berner, since the giant will give them very thin. etc.
I love the giant dearly for its convenience and when it needs to be done quickly.

hawk, and my Debaerovskaya easily cuts, but I have it and a little different.
A giant for salad cuts, and for potatoes for shchapekanky, I just chop with a debyer. Cabbage for pickling is also for them, it has the required thickness, and the giant for cabbage and lek salad is excellent. For me, they complement each other.
Twig
Bast1nda, yes, so I say that you have a v-shaped blade, it is easier to walk on it.
But I have waffle slices. Nicely a couple of slices in a salad!
Bast1nda
hawk, tease, huh?
I cut by hand from teskoma in waves.
That's why you told me, now I want to manipulate my work and also cut in a wavy way, and not by hand.
Chardonnay
Girls, I'm very afraid to read the whole topic, there is a limited amount) Advise some proven device (from inexpensive and in Russia) to cut onions into cubes I hate this business
anna_k
Girls, and I'm here after a month of owning a giant, I watched carefully the video on slicing cabbage. It turns out that the head of cabbage had to be cut in half
So the reason for the unfriendliness with the giant is still my crooked hands)))
By the way, I personally don't need a coarse grater - I don't really use it on an electric grater, as well as a pancake grater. I do everything on small ...

Today I tried the mandolin debayer, apparently, my hands are crooked again. The potatoes were cut hard and I had to break it with my hands a little. Well, there is nothing more to cut yet (((Full refrigerator of everything and there are no vegetables))))
The husband promised to show a master class on how to use a vegetable cutter correctly
Twig
Chardonnay, I am a masochist, I love dicing onions with a knife .... I cry sometimes
If you need a little, a blender will help.
In general, the alligator speaks with this task with a bang. But this is no longer budget
Bast1nda
hawk, and now the metro has some kind of budget a = la alligator. Well, as a budget, 1700. In green and white colors. In terms of the set of functions, it seemed to me that they crossed an alligator and a berner))))) That is, both slices and a cube cutter are available and the principle of action is like an alligator: you press the lid and the product is cut into cubes. Here's a hybrid.
I still want to touch this little thing on my next visit, just out of curiosity. Now I can't reproduce its name from memory, but it consists of two words.
Chardonnay
Bast1nda, Natalya, whisper her, please! How do you think it will be like it or not? We have Metro devils where it is, 60 km to go))) In principle, 1700 is fine, if there is also a set of functions ...
Shl. Now I looked at the catalog of this Metro of ours - there is nothing even remotely resembling ..
shl. PS))) Found it, like this? 🔗 ?
Zena
anna_k, congratulations on your assistant !!!
Twig
Bast1nda, I have a zhezh neiser diser lying around somewhere, somehow I didn't make friends with him. Poor quality plastics. She is prickly. It seems that the mount will break off. Boiled vegetables are no problem, but a wheel is more convenient for me (or how to call it correctly, I showed it here). And on raw ones it will definitely grunt.
There are no complaints about the knives, the graters are sharp, but the attachment points are very stressful. The peeler in this set is so cool.
kVipoint
Quote: kolyubaka
In general, the alligator speaks with this task with a bang. But this is no longer budget
so you can buy a plastic one and there will be a normal one, you can put up with such an amount, they are also strong, they will suit for a bow for sure)))
Bast1nda
Chardonnay, girls, here it is, yes you posted it)))))
🔗
Please rate. what do you think?
Bast1nda
hawk, tell me more about the wheel. I bought it, but I haven't tested it yet, there is no time at all. I want to try. Are you putting it on the jar? (I'm generally talking about that, either at least or we are about different wheels))))))) Tell us in stages, pliz.
anna_k
Quote: Bast1nda

Chardonnay, girls, here it is, yes you posted it)))))
🔗
Please rate. what do you think?
🔗
It is much cheaper here.
I don’t know about the quality, I once bought in a teleshop like a Nice Diser ... I couldn’t use it, the knives are dull ...
Bast1nda
anna_k, we do not have it in technosil and the price can grow for the regions, but not the point. In principle, you can chop into cubes with an ordinary device, for example, from decocks, which costs a penny. I used to cut potatoes like this into sticks. Of course I will turn it in my hands, but as I wrote the kolyubaka, I don’t like this plastic, it’s some kind of smooth and flimsy-thin to the touch. there is no feeling of poor quality and fragility. This may not be the case.
Marfusha5
Quote: Bast1nda
Chardonnay, girls here she is, yes you laid it out)))))
🔗
Please rate. what do you think?
Natasha, I have two vegetable cutters of the type

Different vegetable cutters (Nayser Diser, Alligator, etc.)
ALPENKOK AK-4502

What can I say about her, it cost 500 rubles, the knives are very sharp. Grilles included 12x12 mm and 6x6 mm. I adore this vegetable cutter, I cut potatoes for her soup, it is more convenient for me to cut potatoes for her than an alligator, maybe because she has a large container. But I did not dare to cut the whole potato on it, I cut it first into circles, then I cut the mug into cubes one by one. But with onions it is completely different, on the one hand, it cuts half an onion on a shallow grate with little effort, sometimes you have to punch a lid, it's scary for it, on the other hand, a large container, this half of an onion falls into it and is smeared all over the container ... The alligator for cutting onions is the most ideal. I use a plastic alligator - I really like it.

The second vegetable cutter that I have
Different vegetable cutters (Nayser Diser, Alligator, etc.)

I used to cut Olivier on it, the lattice there is only 12x12 mm and one even larger, it turned out very large, but the container is well sooo big, it turned out a lot. I really liked it. But the graters are a separate song, they are nothing, nothing can be rubbed on them, I can say I threw mine out, they are soooo stupid, I don’t know why they are needed there at all, apparently, to cost more.
The fruit holder is also no - these small plastic bumps are made only for beauty - they do not hold the vegetable at all with any side. Rubbing on this grater is generally inconvenient. And I didn’t manage to rub anything.
The grates of these two cutters of the same size are interchangeable. In general, I like to cut only potatoes for soup on it, I really like it. Onion - if there is no money, then such a vegetable cutter will do, but I will not recommend it for onions. The best thing for a bow, again, is an alligator. It is better to pay 2000 once and enjoy it all your life than to buy a cheap one, which either cuts worse or breaks faster.
Bast1nda
Marfusha5, thank you very much for the detailed consultation. I already understood that when a lot of things are crammed, I have to put up with some flaws. It cuts cubes perfectly, but the graters are bad, etc. Probably better to take monodevices.
But I still cuddle her in the Metro, there we have a lot of different shredders, graters, cutters. Although, I repeat, I can handle it as a cube cutter (if you need a little), with the usual deco, which is shown in the first message of this topic. Purchased a long time ago, but it still cuts perfectly.
anna_k
For some reason, I, despite the presence of the Alligator, prefer to cut the onion on a Berner (by the way, I also need to test it on a Debeyer).
Firstly, it turns out much neater and smaller, and secondly, the burner is much easier to wash. You need to pick out the remains of the Alligator, and this is very lazy.
Even for onions (as well as nuts, carrots, ginger, etc.) I often use such a device ( 🔗).Sold in Metro and M. Video. Budgetary, takes up little space, easy to clean. At a time, it chops either a good medium onion (you must first cut it into 4 or 8 parts), or even half an onion and half a carrot at the same time.
Bast1nda
anna_k, and I chop the onion / garlic with Teskom HANDY.
Onions and garlic for the one for the onion, I didn't buy a small one for the garlic, I was alone for the eyes.
🔗
for garlic, here the video will be in more detail (herbs, nuts, chocolate). But the devices are the same, just different sizes and that's it.
🔗
If shredding, then already on a giant on 4 blades, he is super-duper in this regard.
Chardonnay
Marfusha5, Irina, thanks for the review, very informative, I was really imbued with ...
Girls, thanks for your advice, I guess I'll order like Bast1nda Teskomovsky HANDY, I liked it for a long time - lies in the basket on Ozone. The price is the same as that of Tescoma on the website.
And for a shredder I have a simple grater "from the market" with replaceable nozzles - it suits me for now, maybe I'll buy something more abruptly for my birthday!
Bowing to the Alligator ...
Otherwise, I don't need anything, I don't need anything, I don't need anything ...
Twig
Quote: Bast1nda

hawk, tell me more about the wheel. I bought it, but I haven't tested it yet, there is no time at all. I want to try. Are you putting it on the jar? (I'm generally talking about that, either at least or we are about different wheels))))))) Tell us in stages, pliz.
No cans. Well, then you will have to pick everything out of the can, well, if you just crumble it for the future.

In your left hand you hold a wheel, in your right a boiled vegetable.
Planted a little, turned, planted, turned - left and right, as it is convenient for anyone.
Directly above the bowl, everything immediately falls where it should be.
If the vegetables are overcooked, the porridge comes out. Well, yes it is on any device.
You don't even need to turn the eggs.
Now I cook vegetables in a multicooker (in a cooker) without water practically, under pressure (0.7) for 2-3 minutes.
Water to the bottom to build up pressure.
Twig
Virgin, I go nuts, it's easier for me to cut potatoes in soup with a chick-chick knife.
Well this is how many unnecessary movements - get the device, cut the potatoes into circles, then shred them into cubes one at a time. Then this whole device needs to be washed

Nenene, albeit not so beautiful, but with a knife, a knife whack-whack and that's it. Three times faster!
anna_k
Oh, well, I also shred potatoes into soup with a knife))) If you have a million cutters
Marfusha5
Quote: kolyubaka
cut potatoes into circles, then chop one plate into cubes
Well, I wrote it figuratively)))) * JOKINGLY * to make the principle clearer. I cut medium-sized potatoes in half lengthwise and then into a vegetable cutter. Peeled, in half, in a vegetable cutter. It's faster for me than a knife. And wash it just rinsed off the starch and that's it. No body movements. To each his own. I don't like cutting raw potatoes with my hands, it's easier for me to use a vegetable cutter.
Bast1nda
hawk, thank you so much!
You will laugh, but I’ll tell you)))) I saw in the picture on the site of teskoma that a turn had been drawn ..... I think, yes, no, some nonsense, they drew an arrow for beauty. And only in your description I understood the principle of work! Judging by the reviews on the page of this wheel, many do not understand the principle and push the whole vegetable, getting long strips, even sausage and someone even broke the strings (the technique is in the hands of a savage), and since you wrote, you get cubes. And I still thought how this winter salad with stripes will all be long, well, I give, in general, apparently not guessed)))))
Bast1nda
Chardonnay, you first twist it in your hands, there are reviews who don't like it at all)))) Again, I read the cool advice and use it. I chop it, but right on the board, disconnect the banore and go ahead, bite, it turns out for me it's even more convenient for one garlic or onion. If a lot, then with a jar.
Chardonnay
Bast1nda, Natalya, where am I going to twist it? I'll get a parcel from Ozone, then I'll twist it))) I just need one small onion, or even chop a half, no more - why buy huge pribluda for this? Even the jar is not useful) If you don't like it at all, I promise not to mumble!
Zena
Quote: Chardonnay
If you don't like it at all, I promise not to mumble
no ... definitely a review ... but even if it's bad!
every opinion has a place to be here ..
kVipoint
Quote: Marfusha5
Well, I wrote it figuratively)))) so that the principle was clearer. I cut medium-sized potatoes in half lengthwise and then into a vegetable cutter. Peeled, in half, in a vegetable cutter. It's faster for me than a knife. And wash it just rinsed off the starch and that's it. No body movements. To each his own. I don't like cutting raw potatoes with my hands, it's easier for me to use a vegetable cutter.
I agree completely, very quickly, beautifully and yet much faster, after all, there are not one potatoes, but from 3 to 5 pieces, I do not like large ones and on a 12 mm lattice in an alligator, that's the thing. Somehow, after buying the alligator, he seemed very confusing to me, but now I'm used to it, I'm very happy and can really wash without any problems with ordinary rinsing

kVipoint
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Twig
Ladies, I categorically recommend such a press for garlic, it is terribly pleasant to the touch, a pusher with pins, squeezes everything to a drop. I crush ginger with it.
Twig
Oh, something is not quite on the topic and it will not work to insert.
I bought a double today, to the dacha. Nice to use, ergonomic, sleek, takes up a little space Different vegetable cutters (Nayser Diser, Alligator, etc.)}

My old one from Gipfel, I bought Taller today in the m-video. Price 550 rubles.
On ozone I saw the same form, two different manufacturers, 1200 and about 500.
Svetlana62
hawk, Twig, show the press, please. Intrigued.
Everything, I see, thanks! And what, really ginger crushes?
Twig
It seems to be inserted? The press is a garlic press. Well, just a very successful model

Pressing how! To a drop !!! Already the spray is flying!
I just tried to crush ginger at the dacha with an old crusher - not that, not at all.
Here you can see the pins Different vegetable cutters (Nayser Diser, Alligator, etc.)}
Svetlana62
Thank you! Let's take!
kirch
So which company is a garlic press, Thaler?
Twig
kirch, absolute clones are made by different manufacturers. Whom you find, take that.
I even guided the prices :))
Twig
Here on the ozone from the bookmarks 🔗
Glossy only
kirch
I asked why. I already have several of these crushers, and I don't like anything. I am returning to the crush of Soviet times. So I want to be sure
Twig
kirch, I had Soviet ones, I broke them a couple of times with nuts
And then I bought this one, Gipfel, and I got it well. How many different pieces in the store I was twisting in my hands - everything was either angular or huge, incomprehensible shapes, pins outside.
Here I was puzzled by the search for the same for the dacha, and I’m glad that I found it impossible.
There are also anti-slip silicone on the handles.
And they wash easily, no toothpicks are needed!
kirch
Twig, and how is he cleaned? Why do I still want to replace the Soviet one, I have to clean the holes with a toothpick

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