azaza
Quote: ukka

Can you have celery? I just add it to such a soup soup.
You can, but I don't really like him.
Mona1
Quote: mom

Yesterday I cut my daughter's potatoes on Deco, I wanted to make grates, so I found pieces of plastic in the potatoes, obviously my hands are in the wrong place: cray: I need to buy a spare holder, otherwise I'll learn, then I'll shred everything.
Natasha, how did you drive the holder along the Deco, it seems like it, how not to twist, the teeth of the holder should not reach the grater blades, and in any of its positions, even at 90 degrees, at least 45. I have not Deco, but a waffle Classic, really. Right now I went, put a holder to it, I looked in profile myself, moved, pressed, turned, no way could the teeth reach the blades, there is still a 2.5-3 millimeter gap between them. Only if the holder is strongly sideways moved, can it be touched by the frame itself? Look carefully, maybe it's not because of this the pieces, maybe it came in a package with them, factory dust, so to speak.
Jerry
Quote: azaza


In general, of all that is not German, the weak link is the Classics and the peeler, the rest is all at its best, despite the Russian production.
I think that the assortment for different markets may differ. To be honest, I still do not understand why you assume that something is produced in Russia?
avgusta24
I have a German vegetable peeler, from the Prima gift set - Very finely peels, without straining, any vegetables and fruits. I'm glad. I have two more similar ones - one from Nyser +, the other - bazaar, for 10 UAH. They also clean well, but remove the thicker skin.
And why they decided that it was Russian - so on the label it is indicated that it was produced for and under the control of Berner in Russia. The carrot sharpener came to me with such a piece of paper.
azaza
Quote: Jerry

I think that the assortment for different markets may differ. To be honest, I still do not understand why you assume that something is Russian-made?

A little higher was the question of the production of Berner knives, read. On them in plain text written: produced under the supervision of Berner. in Russia! I doubt this factory only produces knives. What is the point of keeping production facilities for the production of knives and paying for the transportation of, say, plastic boxes for inserts? It's no secret that the Classic is produced in Russia. Then we connect the logic.
If you want to think that your Berner is German, think! Moreover, the place of production does not affect the quality. I say - only a vegetable peeler is lousy and the Classic set is not very good - the quality of plastic is lame in it. The blades are also high in the Classic.
All other Berner products, regardless of the place of production and purchase, are super!
mother
Quote: Mona1

Natasha, how did you drive the holder along the Deco, it seems like it, how not to twist, the teeth of the holder should not reach the grater blades, and in any of its positions, even at 90 degrees, at least at 45. I have not Deco, but a waffle Classic, really. Right now I went, put a holder to it, I looked in profile myself, moved, pressed, turned, no way could the teeth reach the blades, there is still a 2.5-3 millimeter gap between them. Only if the holder is strongly sideways moved, can it be touched by the frame itself? Look carefully, maybe it's not because of this the pieces, maybe it came in a package with them, factory dust, so to speak.
no, not dust for sure, I saw then these sections on the holder. First she cut straight, then turned 90 degrees.
Stafa
Quote: azaza


If you want to think that your Berner is German, think! Moreover, the place of production does not affect the quality. I say - only a lousy peeler
Tatyan, right now, I specially took out a piece of paper from a triangular peeler bought in Russia - at the top in large letters MADE IN GERMANY is a trend model. So it's just that the cleaning itself is not ice, although it was released in Germany. For 15 years, many have simply learned how to do better cleaning of the burner.
Jerry
Quote: azaza

A little higher was the question of the production of Berner knives, read. On them in plain text written: produced under the supervision of Berner. in Russia!
Excuse me, I have not seen, but can I have an exact quote?
Grypana
Quote: Jerry

Excuse me, I have not seen, but can I have an exact quote?

I quote: “Jürgen Berner is a big supporter of the latest technology and by 1982 the plant was completely modernized inside and out.

In September 1991 the plant took part in the exhibition in Moscow "Konsumexpo-1991". Then it was decided to open several branches in the territory of the former USSR. Branches were opened in Russia, Ukraine, as well as in Belarus represented by the Efrat-K company, which has been operating for 18 years already. "

In any case, Berner stands for quality
Mona1
Quote: avgusta24


And why they decided that it was Russian - so on the label it is indicated that it was produced for and under the control of Berner in Russia. The carrot sharpener came to me with such a piece of paper.
It's also written on the box with my Classic waffle. And the plastic is not tactilely the same as on Rocko, for example, or on Trend.
Mona1
By the way, on the video for the classic waffle, the ones that I gave you, you can see that the German classic waffle is of a slightly different design from the one sold here (there is no bottom in our bottom, so to speak, we saved on plastic).
mother
in my rocko Classic bought in Ukraine is written Made in Germany, but the plastic is not the same as in Prima from Germany
Jerry
Quote: Grypana

I quote: “Jürgen Berner is a big supporter of the latest technology and by 1982 the plant was completely modernized inside and out.

In September 1991 the plant took part in the exhibition in Moscow "Konsumexpo-1991". Then it was decided to open several branches in the territory of the former USSR. Branches were opened in Russia, Ukraine, as well as in Belarus represented by the Efrat-K company, which has been operating for 18 years already. "

I understand that we are talking about sales representatives, and not about production.
Monica
I ran to the godfather, here is a photo of the packaging of the knife, though I took a phone call
Grater Burner (2)

Then it turns out "Asia" is German, on their website. That's just interesting in terms of quality differs from ours?
nila
Quote: azaza

If only for this reason:
There is no such triangular peeler in Germany, which was discussed above. They have been producing an improved model with a serrated blade and garlic grater for a long time.
That's exactly what I wrote about ... with a serrated blade and a garlic grater. I am very pleased with her. I haven't tried to peel the eggplant with it. And then I thought that I hid my old one early. I have it solid, stainless steel with floating diamond blades (as it was written). I don't remember the manufacturer, I bought it for a long time. So I used it to peel eggplants and zucchini, and pumpkin.
Bernerovskaya will cope with this too, but I feel sorry for her. She peels my potatoes and carrots, so the skin glows, so thin.
And the bazaar. I threw out the plastic one long ago. I didn't like it. Cleans thick and hard.
Quote: azaza

You can, but I don't really like him.
Tanya, you are sorry, you are not ... but it is necessary, registered!
I discovered celery for myself a year ago. First, I added current to borscht soups. Mine spat at first, but I'm stubborn ... there is something that is necessary, and the other is dumb. Then they got used to it, they didn't even notice it. Then someone wrote here for a loin with celery. I tried it, I liked it!
After breakfast, my half-hearted husband uttered a phrase that I very rarely hear from him))) how delicious it is! Well, he doesn't like to praise ... grit, I always praise in my heart!
And recently I learned that celery should be on our menu every day. It maintains normal blood pressure better than drugs and other products. In any form))) boiled, fresh, juice, but it should be consumed!
I even got an ECO seasoning ... dry celery ...and I sprinkle it wherever it is necessary - and not necessary!
Here is the current celery puree I will not dare to cook
Ukka
I could not stand celery in food and spirit. Well, I don't like strong aromas, my sense of smell is too developed ... But then somehow the dotsya asked me to cook a slimming cabbage soup in a pressure cooker. The rich celery aroma has disappeared somewhere, so it remains unobtrusive. I liked it, now it goes to all the soups!
nila
Quote: Stafa

Tatyan, right now, I specially took out a piece of paper from a triangular peeler bought in Russia - on the top in large letters MADE IN GERMANY is a trend model. So it's just that the cleaning itself is not ice, although it was released in Germany. For 15 years, many have simply learned how to do better cleaning of the burner.
Well, I can't understand why it's not ice!
Nothing is written on my cleaning, current is Berner's sign. But you can't put a finger on the teeth ... it digs straight into the blade. And such an impression, if you move your finger, then you will firmly fall into teeth blade teeth
azaza
Nelya, we're talking about different peelers. Stafa meant another, without teeth. And here it is - not ice at all, no matter what they write on it: Germany is "like Germany". If it was produced in Germany, then it is of a very old model, in Germany such have not been produced for a long time, because ... no ice! And here they still continue to rivet, to the expectation that people will bite on Berner. The people bite and then spit.
Mona1
Quote: Monica

I ran to the godfather, here is a photo of the packaging of the knife, though I took a phone call
Grater Burner (2)

Then it turns out "Asia" is German, on their website. That's just interesting in terms of quality differs from ours?

Precisely with us, even spelled with spelling errors - technicaltoskim
nila
Well, she also wrote that she had two-German, from the website gift ... and old
Grypana
Quote: Mona1

Exactly with us, even spelled with spelling errors - technicaltoskim

they only observe the quality, spelling is not theirs, alas, lot
Stafa
Quote: nila

Well, she also wrote that she had two-German, from the website gift ... and old
I have one gift, the second was bought a few months ago.
Quote: nila

Well, I can't understand why it's not ice!
Nothing is written on my cleaning, current is Berner's sign. But you can't put a finger on the teeth ... it digs straight into the blade. And such an impression, if you move your finger, then you will firmly fall into teeth blade teeth
Because I found BETTER than Berner's. Understand, it's just better and more convenient than Berner's. Berner's might seem like the good .. of the worst.
vinis
Quote: Stafa

I have one gift, the second was bought a few months ago. Because I found BETTER than Berner's. Understand, it's just better and more convenient than Berner's. Berner's might seem like the good .. of the worst.
Light, which is better?
Jerry
Quote: Monica

I ran to the godfather, here is a photo of the packaging of the knife, though I took a phone call
Grater Burner (2)

And at the top of the photo are the coordinates of the importer, representative in the CIS, right?
Stafa
I tell you - I peeled potatoes with both Berner's. The gift one really cleans better and easier than the trend one, but .. the potatoes from it are stripes and rough to the touch, if there are no normal peelers, then the gift is good. A bit wide in size and hand uncomfortable, thick to hold. But you can get used to this disadvantage if the pockmarked potato suits. But on the site it is also positioned for peeling tomatoes - then I will try to peel them in season.
Now she again stuck to the peeled potato with a trendy vegetable peeler and taking it closer to the blade - she peels so well, too, the pressure goes differently, but it bites into the hand and is inconvenient from the peeling device for cutting the top and bottom of the orange. That is, the blade itself is normal, but the extra pribluda on it does not allow to put it in the hand normally, and holding it by a convenient place on the handle - the quality of cleaning suffers. So either peel the lipies, but vegetables are not good enough, or peel them well and striped, but without the lipies.
nila
Quote: Stafa

Because I found BETTER than Berner's. Understand, it's just better and more convenient than Berner's. Berner's might seem like the good .. of the worst.
Well, the best photo in the studio! Maybe we will also look for this ... and we will not argue
Stafa
I have the best Ikeevskaya so far

Grater Burner (2).


And the girls praise the all-metal in kitchen details. Maybe she's the best? I buy - I find out.
skorpiosha
wow, but I just saw that there is an insert in the trend and 1.6 and 4.5 mm, and even 10 ... now I rush between the prima and the trend. And who took all these extra inserts for the trend? Is the slicing very different?
Graziella
Quote: azaza

Nelya, we're talking about different peelers. Stafa meant another, without teeth. And here it is - not ice at all, no matter what they write on it: Germany is "like Germany". If it was produced in Germany, then it is of a very old model, in Germany such have not been produced for a long time, because ... no ice! And here they still continue to rivet, to the expectation that people will bite on Berner. The people bite and then spit.

Just about, I also pecked, and now I'm cleaning everything with a knife!
Playful
Quote: Mona1

Exactly with us, even spelled with spelling errors - technicaltoskim
Well, now something starts to clear up for me. The fact is that 5 years ago, together with the VIP-4 set, my husband and I also bought a set of Ideal knives from a dealer in our city. And everything was fine, but about a month later one of the most usable knives suddenly broke for no reason at the very base of the handle, and the feeling was as if in this place the metal had rusted and broke from the load. A couple of months later, the same thing happened with another knife. The rest of the knives have been cutting wonderfully for more than 4.5 years, thank God. My husband and I then puzzled over what could have caused this marriage, but we did not understand. I will notice right away that at that time we did not have a dishwasher, and the knives are not in our sink in the water - my husband has a thing about this. So I nevertheless now conclude that it was some kind of marriage, and probably precisely due to the fact that knives are produced in Russia, as it turned out now.
Graziella
Quote: Stafa

I tell you - I peeled potatoes with both Berner's. The gift one really cleans better and easier than the trend one, but .. the potatoes from it are stripes and rough to the touch, if there are no normal peelers, then the gift is good. A bit wide in size and hand uncomfortable, thick to hold. But you can get used to this disadvantage if the pockmarked potato suits. But on the site it is also positioned for peeling tomatoes - then I will try to peel them in season.

And I bought a Teskomovsky vegetable peeler especially for soft vegetables and fruits! I clean tomatoes and kiwi, the sea of ​​delight! Previously, everything was choking, juice flowed from hand to hand, but now it's beauty !!!
Julia V
Now I looked at the packaging for Ideal knives, without spelling errors
nila
For tomatoes and kiwi, I have a ceramic round (it is convenient for her to cut kiwi into plates). The all-metal one I have ... I'll leave it for super hard vegetables. And for carrots, maybe for potatoes (I haven't quite got used to a new, round one) I'll leave Berner's triangular one. Roughness b does not even bother me at all, the main thing is easy and thin to clean. I even had a metal potato peeler retired, leaving it for my husband. I won't let him near Berner.
I stop arguing ... everyone has their own opinion ...
Stafa
Nelya, it's so good that I liked it. Here she will serve when she has her term .. then you will choose the next one.
Mona1
Quote: skorpiosha

wow, but I just saw that there is an insert in the trend and 1.6 and 4.5 mm, and even 10 ... now I rush between the prima and the trend. And who took all these extra inserts for the trend? Is the slicing very different?
4.5 mm insert is very good, carrots and onions in pilaf are just right. I didn’t like it at 1.6, rubbing the carrots right into the dust, although some, on the contrary, praise and like it. I like the Rocko trend much more, Everywhere they write that 1.6 and Rocko are similarly rubbing, but this is not so.
10 mm is very popular for potatoes in soups, for stews. Or zucchini, eggplant.
Prima also has a 10 mm insert (not included, but separately), but 1.6 is not. There the tinder is somehow 3.5 in some position, but rectangular bars come out with a cross section of 3.5 * 1.6 mm.
Better Rocko trend.
Monica
Quote: Julia V

Now I looked at the packaging for Ideal knives, without spelling errors
I got it on three packages with errors on two without
Grypana
Natasha-Makabush, if everyone in Germany has already bought Karly, maybe it's not too late for us to stock up on Karly in Ukraine? The German side has not answered you yet? I am going to Germany, but there is something that is no longer there that my soul desired in full. I wanted everything in one place ...
redcat
Girls, and I look there where necessary in Ukrainian. hike? I admire here 🔗, right?
Grypana
Do you want to stock up in Germany or in Ukraine? There are prices somewhere on the 130th pages - this is a Ukrainian purchase in the Kiev office. And the site that you threw the link is a German purchase, we also buy there and wait for Natasha-Makabusha to turn up.
Arnica
Quote: azaza

Both in Asia and in Mexico City it is written: "Produced by order and under the technical control of Borner GmbН. That is, produced in Russia" under the supervision of Berner. "
I didn't find such an inscription on Ideal. Is it written on the box like that? I kind of looked through everything
redcat
Well, I'm blond because of the flu. To clarify: I am interested in the Ukrainian campaign to Germany, because the first time I liked it soooo. So are the attendance-passwords valid? And who is leading it? Again Macabush?
Monica
Quote: Olyushka

I didn't find such an inscription on Ideal. Is it written on the box like that? I kind of looked through everything
I have just written on the Ideal, At the very bottom of the package.
Grypana
Quote: Olyushka

I didn't find such an inscription on Ideal. Is it written on the box like that? I kind of looked through everything
Well, what's the point of looking? After all, the quality of the graters does not suffer from this. We have here more than one comparative analysis (Mona, in my opinion, the owner of graters from the Ukrainian representation and from the German one, took pictures, posted, compared, there are differences). But! The quality is still Berner's! Conclusion - graters rub and will be more alive than all living things. Don't get hung up like that, girls and boys. The less we know - we sleep longer.

The question began with graters, it just reached the knives. And on the Bernerovsky website, there is now only a little, and there is almost no Trend. But this did not mean that Berner did not release him.
Monica
Quote: Grypana


Well, what's the point of looking? After all, the quality of the graters does not suffer from this. We have here more than one comparative analysis (Mona, in my opinion, the owner of graters from the Ukrainian representation and from the German one, took pictures, posted, compared, there are differences). But! The quality is still Berner's! Conclusion - graters rub and will be more alive than all living things. Don't get hung up like that, girls and boys. The less we know - we sleep longer.
It does not affect the graters, but on the knives it turns out that yes.
Quote: Playful

Well, now something starts to clear up for me. The fact is that 5 years ago, together with the VIP-4 set, my husband and I also bought a set of Ideal knives from a dealer in our city. And everything was fine, but about a month later one of the most usable knives suddenly broke for no reason at the very base of the handle, and the feeling was as if in this place the metal had rusted and broke from the load. A couple of months later, the same thing happened with another knife. The rest of the knives have been cutting wonderfully for more than 4.5 years, thank God. My husband and I then puzzled over what could have caused this marriage, but we did not understand. I will notice right away that at that time we did not yet have a dishwasher, and the knives are not in our sink in the water - my husband has a thing about this. So I nevertheless now conclude that it was some kind of marriage, and probably precisely due to the fact that knives are produced in Russia, as it turned out now.
Julia V
Natasha, we are talking about knives just on the German Berner there are no knives of such a variety. So it became interesting
Ukka
Quote: Grypana

Don't get hung up like that, girls and boys.
That's why I'm not eager to buy a Burner. I just saw graters no worse, and maybe even better than Burner ... For 7 years, the plastic was not dull and like new ... They cost, however, not cheaper than Burner ...
I run away, seeing the slippers flying at me ...
azaza
Quote: redcat

Clarify: I am interested in the Ukrainian campaign to Germany

P. 132, in the post of Makabushi scanned pages of the Ukrainian price list.
Whistle in a personal Ira-Vinis.
Mona1
Quote: Grypana


Well, what's the point of looking? After all, the quality of the graters does not suffer from this. We have here more than one comparative analysis (Mona, in my opinion, the owner of graters from the Ukrainian representation and from the German one, took pictures, posted, compared, there are differences). But! The quality is still Berner's! Conclusion - graters rub and will be more alive than all living things. Don't get hung up like that, girls and boys. The less we know - we sleep longer.
Exactly, I posted, here you can see

https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=170448.0

https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=170448.0
azaza
Quote: ukka

That's why I'm not eager to buy a Burner. I just saw graters no worse, and maybe even better than Burner ... For 7 years, the plastic was not dull and like new ... They cost, however, not cheaper than Burner ...
I run away, seeing the slippers flying at me ...
Ol, I have no extra slippers. I'll take an interest in the current: name, sister, name! (c) Shaw for graters, sho demolish them nyama, but are not cheaper than Berner? We can do this too. We're all plague here, right now we'll rush to buy to check
Mona1
I just read, someone seemed to write about the classic waffelka and pizza-grater bought here, that after a year or two the plastic crumbled, something cracked there, and on the same ones bought a hundred years ago in Germany - as new. From there, doubts began about the authenticity of these graters and the quality of plastic and its difference from plastic on other graters ...

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