Kamusik
Interesting ... Tanya, try to pour it into something below and put it on the shelf in the refrigerator. It shouldn't leak!
azaza
Quote: Kamusik

Interesting ... Tanya, try to pour it into something below and put it on the shelf in the refrigerator. It shouldn't leak!
Tanya, too lazy to get the dishes dirty. It turned out to be easier to climb the network, look for the pour point ol. oils. Different sources call different temperatures: somewhere between +5 - +8, but more often -2 - -6 *. Apparently my refrigerator is too warm
Caprice
Quote: azaza

ordinary Italians in the form of extra virgin olive oil slip a burda.
No, rather, it is ordinary Italians who slip a drunkard of not the best quality to ordinary Russians under the guise of Extra Virgin. And the real Extra Virgin is kept
azaza
Quote: Caprice

No, rather, it is ordinary Italians who slip a drunkard of not the best quality to ordinary Russians under the guise of Extra Virgin. And the real Extra Virgin is kept
I have extra virgin not only it. production, but also bought in it. supermarket. T. about. I dare to hope that this is a real ol. oil. At least the same that is eaten privates Italians. About command staff I will not say
Caprice
Quote: azaza

I have extra virgin not only it. production, but also bought in it. supermarket. T. about. I dare to hope that this is a real ol. oil. At least the same that is eaten privates Italians. About command staff I will not say
Well, if this Italian supermarket is located in Italy itself, then of course. Well, if in Kiev - "Todi yoy!"
azaza
Quote: Caprice

Well, if this Italian supermarket is located in Italy itself, then of course. Well, if in Kiev - "Todi yoy!"
If it were bought in Kiev, I would not be at all sure of its quality. Although, actually, it’s not even funny anymore. The quality of products in Kiev stores ... to put it mildly, below the level of the city sewage system
Eh, somewhere we were generally drawn at random from the main topic.
Caprice
Quote: azaza

The quality of products in Kiev stores ... to put it mildly, below the level of the city sewage system
But this is really sad. At the end of April I am expecting guests from Kiev. Well, what do they eat there, poor people?
Margit
Girls, and indeed the butter has thickened, like ghee became, you can't pour a drop from the bottle.

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azaza
Quote: Margit

Girls, and indeed the butter has thickened, like ghee became, you can't pour a drop from the bottle.
Margit, and how long and at what temperature was it? Mine never froze, only slightly thickened, the fluidity decreased, but not to say that significantly. True, I never moved it to a colder place - it is on the refrigerator door.
Margit
I have never had the olive oil in my refrigerator door to this degree. Yesterday, for checking, I moved it to the coldest zone of the refrigerator, where I have +3, it froze like that.
I really didn't believe it.
kubanochka
In winter we left home for 5 days, the heating was turned off. We arrived, and in the kitchen +10. My olive oil is all frozen. And I have a bunch of bottles, lavender, orange peel, sage, etc. filled with oil (for soap, balms ...) By the way, the jojoba oil froze in the same way.
azaza
Margit, yes, I believe (not you, but generally about butter), it's just too lazy to mess around. The bottle will not fit in another place, and I myself have a refrigerator at +8, and it is too lazy to reinstall the settings. If there were doubts about the oil - I would not regret the body movements, but so ... It's just now I wonder at what temperature it solidifies. Thanks to you, we have established empirically that + 3 * is already enough for him
Elenka
I have +6 in the chill-out, so the oil is always "hard" frozen. Both the "local" (Ukrainian) olive oil and the good Italian oil freeze. But here nashenskoe forms small and yellow grains, and Italian - greenish with large flakes-balls.
azaza
Quote: kubanochka

In winter we left home for 5 days, the heating was turned off. We arrived, and in the kitchen +10. My olive oil is all frozen. And I have a bunch of bottles, lavender, orange peel, sage, etc. filled with oil (for soap, balms ...) By the way, the jojoba oil froze just like that.
It's strange. And mine does not freeze. It is unlikely that my temperature on the refrigerator door is higher than +10.
Apparently, Italians are fooled as much as our brother
And vaapche I was struck by one case. Offtopic, of course, but I want to tell you. I bought groceries in a supermarket (again in Italy), and bought a can of green. peas on olivier. The cashier punched it, and then she didn't like this can, she began to peer at it intently, and found that the can was overdue. So she "knocked it back" for me, and was not even too lazy to check all the banks of the customer, whom she had already served in front of me (while she had not yet put the purchases in packages). For them this is the norm, but I was shocked to the core. Imagine that in our supermarkets the cashiers began to check the expiration dates on the product
kubanochka
Well I say, I froze at +10. Moreover, I insist on herbs, let's say, not very cool oil, but everything is frozen.
azaza
Well, I'm already quite interested. Slowly I go into a rage. I'll try to put another oil in the refrigerator. If this continues, I will not be too lazy to pour it into a small container and put it in the coldest corner.
But I will not reprogram the refrigerator. You will hesitate to transfer it to the usual mode.
Sens
the point is that the oil should freeze at positive temperatures. this is the criterion.

if you put it in a strong cold, everything will freeze.
azaza
Quote: Sens

the point is that the oil should freeze at positive temperatures. this is the criterion.

if you put it in a strong cold, everything will freeze.
I tried to dig up information on the internet. Different sources give different pour points. Moreover, the majority tends to -2 ... -6 *
I put 4 bottles of different ol in the hall. oils, all it. origin (and purchase). Three of them are ecsta virgin. We'll see.
azaza
The experiment is over.
Out of four bottles of oil (three of which are extra virgin, and the fourth was bought by my husband) NOT ONE COLD! Even flakes are not observed in any bottle.
The conclusions are quite ambiguous:
Or the Italians are being fed a worthless ol. oil
Either the temperature in my refrigerator is higher than + 10 *
Or the theory is wrong

Option one causes me strong doubts. Italians, of course, are original people, and you can expect anything from them. But cheese, wine and olive oil are considered national treasures. One brand might have been unusable. But FOUR brands, bought in different supermarkets in Rome at different times, and all as one stick? I do not believe.
The second option, with a refrigerator, is also highly questionable. If it was too hot, I would have lost all the food. However, I'm happy with my refrigerator (mmm). No, not here the dog rummaged.

Option three is a mistake in theory. Personally, this seems to me the most likely. Yesterday I already cited figures: different sources call different freezing temperatures ol. oil, while the majority converges on the numbers -2 ... -6 * C. But many members of the forum have ol. oil still freezes in the refrigerator! And from somewhere this theory about checking oil in cold came from. I don’t presume to assert, I’m just making an assumption: perhaps, at rather high temperatures, it’s just the oil of not very high quality that solidifies? So Kubanochka said that her oil was "not very cool."
Starting the experiment, I had no doubts about the quality of the oil. I did not check it, but the method of checking the quality of ol. cold oils. As for me, the method is not working. T. about. do not be upset if your ol.the oil is not frozen in the refrigerator - mine is not frozen either, but that does not mean that it is bad. At least Italians like it, but they know a lot about ol. oil.
If you throw slippers, try not to hurt too much. What happened - then she announced. And she could have kept silent.
strawberry
I had Italy oil, but imported from Turkey. Here it froze in the x-ke, and I thought that it was spoiled. But at room level. melted away. Now I keep only sunflower seeds in the farm.
dopleta
Quote: Caprice

Moderators-s-s !!! Open a separate topic for different types of vegetable oil! And then they have already forgotten about the kitchen stuff !!!!!

She is with us THERE IS.
TaTa *
People, that's what I dug up on the internet on the website of ITLV

One of the special properties of Virgen Extra olive oil is that when stored at a temperature
on average from plus 5-7 degrees, the oil crystallizes - it thickens, becomes cloudy or precipitates like snow flakes,
which completely disappears at higher temperatures, without affecting the quality and organoleptic characteristics at all
olive oil.
But some types of oil begin to crystallize at plus 10 degrees, and some still do not become cloudy at plus 3.
Temperature, time, degree of crystallization (such as color, aroma, and degree of piquant bitterness) depend on a number of factors:
- region of origin / locality
- varieties of olives / blend
- harvest
etc.

To produce and supply proven quality olive oil,
simply putting a glass of oil in the refrigerator is not enough.
For this, there are special laboratories and quality departments of factories.

The exception is oils from olive pomace (the so-called second pressing), these are the types of oils Orujo, Sansa, Pomace.

Caprice
Quote: dopleta

She is with us THERE IS.
She may be there, but they are writing about butter again. And the moderators can't stand it!

For those in the tank: Please write about oil in the relevant topic! Here - about the kitchen stuff!
dalida
azaza, keep your Italian oil in the refrigerator for a week or ten days and it will start to freeze.
azaza
Quote: dalida

azaza, keep your Italian oil in the refrigerator for a week or ten days and it will start to freeze.
A week to occupy the refrigerator with oil? I have something to keep besides him. And in oil I am 100% sure even without checks.
And yet yes - let's finish here with butter. We've digressed a lot from the topic.
irysska
Quote: julifera

Huck Fin - Is there a Metro? There, very convenient torch-man's spiral whisks are always on sale for the second year already.
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And I'm on a tip julifera I bought such a whisk in the Metro, only with a black handle. Now it costs 15.96 UAH, such as a discount on it. It turned out to be a comfortable weight
matroskin_kot
And I bought a grip for the protester. Here's one. Conveniently.
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irysska
Girls, do you think this device will fit

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for stirring the starter culture in yogurt milk (my girlfriend is going to buy this for herself).
But I'm thinking whether it will work out or the whole ceiling will be in milk. Who uses this device - what will he say
Antonovka
irysska,
Irish, I have one, but I use it for foam or whipping sauces.If I don't get too tired today and still force myself to put on yogurt, I'll try (in fact, the idea is cool)
14anna08
Quote: matroskin_kot

And I bought a grip for the protester. Here's one. Conveniently.
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I have no idea how to take a baking sheet ...

on the photo the milk frother is not very powerful, so the ceiling should be in order
azaza
Quote: irysska

Girls, do you think this device will fit

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for stirring the starter culture in yogurt milk (my girlfriend is going to buy this for herself).
But I'm wondering if it will work out or the whole ceiling will be in milk. Who uses this device - what will he say
Iris, I have a similar plan electrolux, chic milk whisk - nothing splashes. And I somehow stir the yogurt with a spoon - I have enough
julifera
Quote: azaza

Iris, I have a similar plan electrolux, chic milk whisk - nothing splashes. And I somehow stir the yogurt with a spoon - I have enough

as a carbon copy !!! (I answered this in the yogurt topic)
azaza
Quote: irysska

Yes, and I have enough, but there is no limit to perfection
Well then, let him take it. UAH 16 is not money, but a wonderful device. We took our own for as much as 170, and then we thought it was cheap. I only found it a couple of years later. And at that moment it may not have been cheap yet. At least this expensive milk is whipped into a chic foam.
Caprice
Quote: irysska

Girls, do you think this device will fit

Kitchen stuff (1)
for stirring the starter culture in yogurt milk (my girlfriend is going to buy this for herself).
But I'm wondering if it will work out, or the whole ceiling will be in milk. Who uses this device - what will he say
Better a milk frother with a charger:
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I have just that. Whips - super! It is stronger than battery-powered devices and whips up high-quality persistent foam faster.
matroskin_kot
Quote: 14anna08

I can't imagine how they can take a baking sheet ...
Cool to take! I checked it yesterday and today. I still have a small one, you can hold it with the other hand, and if the baking sheet is not heavy, then one is fine. The main thing is not baking, not hot. At first it was scary that I could not resist, now it's class !!
Zvezda askony
Quote: Caprice

Better a milk frother with a charger:
I have just that. Whips - super! It is stronger than battery-powered devices and whips up high-quality persistent foam faster.
Better is better. and more profitable. duck where to get it?!?!
I bought mine in Metro which Cash with Kerry
It is not very cost effective on batteries.
The handle is very comfortable, ergonomic
Caprice
Quote: Zvezda Askony

Better is better. and more profitable. duck where to get it?!?!
I bought mine in Metro which Cash with Kerry
It is not very cost effective on batteries.
The handle is very comfortable, ergonomic
I have a battery at home with such an "ergonomic" handle. Is there a button on top? If from above, then it is inconvenient. From experience.
azaza
I have two batteries. A pair of batteries lasts about six months. But actually, I would love to get a recharger. I think it's more convenient.
And the buttons are on the side of my battery.
Caprice
Quote: azaza

I have two batteries. A pair of batteries lasts about six months. But actually, I would love to get a recharger. I think it's more convenient.
And the buttons are on the side of my battery.
We had enough batteries for a very short time. Even an "energizer". And on batteries with the same precisely "ergonomic" handle, the button was on top, which canceled out all the effect of the handle's convenience. We have already changed these battery packs. They break down quickly by themselves.
The charger was bought much more expensive, but it's worth it. It is much more powerful and whips up faster than battery ones.
azaza
I am basically satisfied with the electrolux. But if he was recharging, I would be even happier And the second one is in the package, we haven't even tried it yet. For some reason, my husband bought an Italian one - and shob bulo! There the spring is more frail in comparison with the Swede. Well, I doubt that an Italian will work better than the same Swede. Italians - they like to work even less than we do.Accordingly, the technique is the same (with rare exceptions, but on the other hand,aboutthey are exceptions like Ferrari)
Caprice
Quote: azaza

I am basically satisfied with the electrolux. But if he was recharging, I would be even happier And the second one is in the package, we haven't even tried it yet. For some reason, my husband bought an Italian one - and shob bulo! There the spring is more frail in comparison with the Swede. Well, I doubt that an Italian will work better than the same Swede. Italians - they like to work even less than we do.Accordingly, the technique is this (with rareaboutthey are exceptions like Ferrari)
I think Electrolux is a very decent company. Even on batteries, it will serve you for a long time.
But I don't really like Italian technology. Even well-known firms.Well, I don't like the Italian quality of technology. Several times I have had problems with Italian goods.
azaza
Quote: Caprice

But I don't really like Italian technology. Even well-known firms. Well, I don't like the Italian quality of technology. Several times I have had problems with Italian goods.
Our man I, too, stay away from Italian (except that shoes rule them). And my husband bought it for fun, as a reminder of Rome. Now this reminder hangs on a carnation, waiting in the wings. I hope he will have to wait a long time
Caprice
When we first moved to Israel from Kiev, there were a lot of Italian home appliances in stores here. It was relatively inexpensive and looked pretty decent. We bought it then, fortunately, we had to somehow settle down in a new place. We bought a microwave oven, a washing machine, a kitchen processor, a coffee maker, an ice cream maker, and other things. A lot has changed since then. All our Italian technology very fast out of order, and we replaced it with equipment from other companies. If they knew that all this would fail so quickly, it would be better to spend a little more money right away, but buy better equipment. Since then, I have been wary of the equipment of Italian manufacturers.
But this is just about household appliances. As for Italian clothes and shoes, I can't say anything. Probably, these things will be better for them.
azaza
Quote: Caprice

Since then, I have been wary of the equipment of Italian manufacturers.
And I used to work with equipment for the food industry. And once I saw with my own eyes an Italian car. She looks beautiful! And you move the silicone gasket - and there is rust under it. In a new car !!! What will happen to her in a year ?! So I don't buy Italians home. Perhaps as a souvenir
Ksun
Quote: irysska

Girls, do you think this device will fit

Kitchen stuff (1)
for stirring the starter culture in yogurt milk (my girlfriend is going to buy this for herself).
But I'm wondering if it will work out, or the whole ceiling will be in milk. Who uses this device - what will he say
My mom bought it at ATB. This is a foolish beater. It is not possible to turn it off, there is no shutdown button, you need to remove the batteries, this iron pin has disappeared. By the way, when making a purchase, the cashier immediately warned that the check would not be thrown away, there is probably a lot of return.
irysska
Quote: Ksun

My mom bought it at ATB. This is a foolish beater. It is not possible to turn it off, there is no shutdown button, you need to remove the batteries, this iron pin has disappeared. By the way, when making a purchase, the cashier immediately warned that the check would not be thrown away, there is probably a lot of return.
It's good that they wrote a review, so we won't buy.
Ksun
that's right, 16 UAH. also money, it is better to add a little and buy at a higher price. For example, an inexpensive fackelmann costs around UAH 60.
julifera
I think there should still be a difference - either the Electrolux beater for 160 UAH or for 16 UAH ATB
irysska
Quote: julifera

I think there should still be a difference - either the Electrolux beater for 160 UAH or for 16 UAH ATB
So this is indisputable, it's just that I, for example, can do without it at all - and if it really bothers me, I'll probably buy an Electrolux all the same.
By the way, julifera, Today I used the whisk again - well, class. You are great for showing it. And then such a culinary specialist as I saw him in the Metro - I also thought - what kind of a favor And he is really comfortable.
makabusha
I have a beater of exactly the same design Klatronic for 30 UAH. The button is on top, but it's convenient for me. I do not use it so often, because it is used little and I can not say anything about its durability.

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