Skazi
Quote: Miranda
And how do you like it?
It seems to me that for little things, such as nuts, chocolates, radishes ... That is, everything small, which is also ok in the food processor, but a couple of things / pieces are lazy. And more for the cheese.
Replaces the attachment with drums, and is much cheaper.
Miranda, I don't have a processor. I immediately grabbed onto the high-speed attachment and think I can do without a processor. In addition, I have a Bosch MSM881X2, which, it seems to me, looks like a processor, and even knows how to cut cubes.
Do you think you can rub a grated radish too? Will it not be too small? Then I'll try to buy and rub it the other day. What else could I put there?
So far I really like her. Over the nozzle with drums, I languished for a long time, but then one of our members of the forum showed me a photo of vegetables cut by her and I decided not to buy it, but to do with this fine grater and again with a high-speed nozzle and Bosch.

Quote: Miranda
How do you quickly do everything - decided and did
Are they the same?
Well, what to pull, then the baskets will not appear from this, and the attachments and equipment falling out of the cabinets slowly begin to annoy. I have already tried to push them into bread molds out of grief.
Baskets: one is larger, almost the same as yours, but slightly lower, the other is oval, I thought that with this geometry it would be better suited for rounded nozzles and one small basket just to heap

Tan_ch, and you order something else there. Many interesting things are sold at Kyu.
Silyavka
Girls, good day. Today my husband gave me a keshka. I wanted to make buns according to this recipeBuns with garlic and herbs... Enlighten me dense, what nozzle to knead the dough? Hook or K-shaped? I'm afraid to do something wrong. Thank you in advance.
Olga VB
Elena, Mix everything approximately with a hook, except for salt and butter, and let it rest for 20 minutes, this batch will stand.
Then add salt and oil and with the same hook for "1" for 12-15 minutes, turn it on and calmly go about your other business this time.
Good luck!
Natusichka
Olga, I have never kneaded like this. I'll have to try.
Mila_sha
Quote: Olga VB
do not fall, please take a picture of the results of your experiments and tell us about everything
We wait
Ol, now of course I will take pictures.
Marinuly
About kneading dough ... Since Ken does it, no HP can knead such a dough. Dough 86% moisture, Ken did it with a bang

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Natusichka
Marinawhat a beautiful bread! This is probably sourdough?
Marinuly
Natusichka, actually it is Basel bread (oven) , but I baked in sourdough and water in half with whey, and changed the technology, kept the dough in the refrigerator overnight. The first time I baked with sourdough, one kind soul shared with me the finished
Natusichka
Very nice bread! But I will not refuse in any way to leaven ...
Marinuly
I, too, would not soon be going to bake with sourdough Thanks for sharing with me the finished one
Silyavka
Olya, please tell me again, and how to mix shortbread dough?
Ketsal
Silyavka, to cut the beam with knives of the processor, I did it with a hook at a minimum. what kesha to congratulate
Silyavka
Olga, KM 280, for which there was enough money.




Quote: Ketsal
beam cut with knives processor
Why with knives?
galina_red
Girls, in the m-video there is a sieve on a large bowl !!!
Evgeniya
Quote: Marinuly

About kneading dough ... Since Ken does it, no HP can knead such a dough. Dough 86% moisture, Ken did it with a bang

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Marinuly, Marina, the bread is fabulous!
Twig
Quote: Silyavka

Olya, please tell me again, and how to mix shortbread dough?
To the nozzle.
Peter Push
Quote: Marinuly
About kneading dough ... Since Ken does it, no HP can knead such a dough. Dough 86% moisture, Ken did it with a bang
Marinuly, Chic, Shine, Beauty !!! With a starter start, you!




Quote: Silyavka
Today my husband gave me a keshka.
Silyavka, with a new assistant you! Successfully pleasant and long-term operation! We look forward to many of your posts with stories about the work of your Kesha.
Silyavka
Peter Push, Thank you for your congratulations. You can come to me. While I am in a state of frustration.
Marinuly
Evgeniya, Thank you




Silyavka, with a wonderful purchase!
Silyavka
Thank you. See the impressions above.
Masha Ivanova
Silyavka, Elena! Congratulations on Kesha!
Olga VB
Quote: Natusichka

Very nice bread! But I will not refuse in any way to leaven ...
Natulya, it's not difficult.
Is your water good?
Is there whey (do you make cottage cheese or cheese?), Or do you even buy kefir sometimes?
Our girls describe in great detail the maintenance of different leavening cultures. It is quite possible to feed, use and forget about purchased yeast according to the instructions.
And we will tell you if something goes wrong
Quote: Marinuly
I baked in sourdough and water in half with whey, and changed the technology, kept the dough in the refrigerator overnight. First time baked with sourdough
Very nice bread!
So what is the comparison with the non-leavening option? Yes, and a long dough. The sourness should be felt stronger.
Have you already baked it under a new hood?
Do you have photos of previous options to compare? Interestingly
Quote: Silyavka

Olya, please tell me again, and how to mix shortbread dough?
Quote: Ketsal
beam cut with knives processor
Quote: Twig
To the nozzle.
I agree with the girls - both options are suitable.
Here you still need to look at the recipe: if you want the layering to remain, so that the sugar grains are "a la caramel", then definitely use knives in the processor to mix everything to a more or less uniform crumb and then do not mix much more, - collect it into a lump, hold for 40 minutes in the refrigerator, and mold the desired products from the cooled one, too, without warming it with your hands and without stirring it.
And if you need complete and absolute uniformity, then K-shka. Or with the same knives for a little longer and then, when collecting into a lump, wrinkle with a little warm hands. And then chill if the recipe requires it.
Quote: Silyavka
Today my husband gave me a keshka.
I clarify: today your husband gave YOURSELF Keshka
Or I'm wrong?
Anyway, congratulations to both of you! Let it serve long and efficiently!
Good luck!
NatalyaB
Silyavka, I join the opinion that if there is a food processor, then with knives shortbread dough turns out the fastest. But if the recipe requires mild butter and a lot of additives, a hook or K-attachment is more convenient. Congratulations on a wonderful car!
Oktyabrinka
Quote: Silyavka
Today my husband gave me a keshka
Lena, congratulations on a great gift, let it only please.
NatalyaB
And today I tried to make minced meat in the processor. The experience of using a processor (other) is already 14 years, if not more. Not, alas, but Kenwood's was not suitable for this purpose: it cuts unevenly, something is already into paste, but something else in pieces. My Filipok was still a happy exception - he chopped very evenly. I was glad that I bought a meat grinder attachment, I will make minced meat only with its help. It's a pity: the processor is easier to disassemble, assemble, and wash. And I got used to it for so many years ...
But I am not overjoyed at the rubbing sieve: the process of cooking jam (jelly?), In general, cherry plum puree boiled with sugar, took a minimum of time. And there was a minimum of waste.
leostrog
With the help of the Kenwood processor with a knife, for many, many years I have been making shortbread dough like a dough for Zserbó Cake (Gerbeaud Cake). First, grind the butter with flour and sugar. and then I add the rest and quickly stir until a lump is obtained.
Compared to ordinary sand, it is not so sensitive to heat, but this is critical for our climate. For traditional shortcrust pastry, the flour and sugar had to be cooled in advance. It makes excellent pies and tart bases.
On this form, Gerbeau did not find a recipe, but in order to avoid unpleasant remarks from the administrators, I do not add a link.
As a kneader for bread dough, Kenwood is IMHO, pretty average, but brioche dough turns out great.
Natusichka
NatalyaB, and did you boil the cherry plum before rubbing it or rub it raw?

Olga, yes, I know it's not difficult, but I'm lazy ...
Silyavka
Quote: Olga VB
gave YOURSELF Keshka
To yourself?
Quote: NatalyaB
soft butter and many additives,
The recipe is soft margarine, eggs, sugar and flour.
Marinuly
As a bread dough kneader, Kenwood is IMHO pretty average,
Which one is good? It seems to me that home use is not even average.

So what is the comparison with the non-leavening option?
Definitely tastier!
Yeah, under the new cap, just a little acidity, but what scent Cap is something, great! You just have to get used to covering it, it's so heavy ...
Ol, unfortunately, there are no previous photos, since the results were not very good (I mixed them in Boshik).
Thank you very much, I myself would not have moved on to such a feat soon.
Silyavka
Quote: Marinuly
As a bread dough kneader, Kenwood is IMHO pretty average,
He didn't impress me either. And in general, a mixer is like a mixer.
NatalyaB
Natusichka, took out the bones and boiled over low heat for 10 minutes with a glass of water for 1 kg. Then into a sieve.




Quote: Silyavka
The recipe is soft margarine, eggs, sugar and flour.
Then it's better with a spatula, that is, with a nozzle, it seems to me. I have not tried it with a hook, experienced ones will tell you.
Natusichka
Quote: NatalyaB
took out the bones and boiled them over low heat for 10 minutes with a glass of water for 1 kg. Then into a sieve.
Natasha, thank you.
Silyavka
Girls, what can you do with this attachment? Kenwood kitchen machine: working with attachments
Can I chop the garlic?
VolzhankaD
Silyavka, the instructions say - coffee, nuts, herbs. fresh will not grind - probably dry herbs. I ground coffee from burdock roots, nuts into baked goods. If you look closely, the base with knives for this grinder is exactly like a blender, almost confused once.




I don’t remember garlic, it seems that it turns out uneven, if only dried.
NatalyaB
Quote: VolzhankaD
fresh will not grind - probably dry herbs.
Melet, that is, grinds. Every day I have more than once: I really don’t like to chop the greens into small pieces (and my hands are not young already), but for the marinade of fish, for example, vegetable caviar, and even salads, I like it so much. Dry should be in the sense that not wet, dried, otherwise it will stick to the walls. I realized that it is better to grind at low speed. Of course, it turns out slightly wrinkled, but if you stop in time, then it's okay. Sauces based on these greens can be chopped, a small amount of fruits / berries in mashed potatoes - for dessert, for example. Some breadcrumbs. Probably nuts too? I crushed it in an old grinder, I haven't tried it yet.
I also ground millet groats for addition to bread dough. In 2 doses, about 70-80 g (in one I was afraid).
It came out a little bit big, but it worked fine in bread.
I won't risk garlic - all the same, rubber seals absorb odors well.
Olga VB
Quote: leostrog
I did not find Gerbeau's recipe for this form, but in order to avoid unpleasant remarks from the administrators, I do not add a link.
On the forum, you can safely give inactive links. In addition, if the forum does not have such an interesting recipe, then you could post it.
Quote: leostrog
As a bread dough kneader, Kenwood is IMHO pretty average,
Quote: Silyavka
He didn't impress me either. And in general, a mixer is like a mixer.
I cannot agree with such statements.
I have seen many comparisons of kneaders, and almost everyone admits that Kenwood is best for home use.
True, it was the models of the upper echelons that were compared.
Anyway, the induction hook kneads the dough perfectly.
About CM Kenwood of other models and about ordinary hooks (without a spatula at the end) I can not judge
Miranda
Silyavka, congratulations, the agony of choice is over!


Quote: Marinuly
.. Since Ken does it, no HP can knead such a dough.Dough 86% moisture, Ken did it with a bang

God, what bread!
And I’m not going to master the leaven, eh.
Silyavka
Quote: Miranda
Silyavka, congratulations, the choices are over!
Thank you for your congratulations. They took not what I wanted, 2000 was not enough. 😞
Quote: Olga VB
True, it was the models of the upper echelons that were compared.
We cannot afford the upper echelons, we spent all of my husband's pension on this.
Quote: VolzhankaD
the instructions say
Not a word is written about this nozzle in the instructions, so I ask. I don't even know where to promise it and at what speed to turn it on. Here I am such an Indian. 😁😁😁
NatalyaB
Silyavka,
Quote: Silyavka
I don't even know where to promise it and at what speed to turn it on.
On the mvideo website for km KM287 (it seems to be the same as yours) there is a pdf-file of instructions in the characteristics. The picture shows well, at least where and how to insert - into the upper high-speed socket, which is "on the roof" of the combine under the cover. The same place as the processor and blender, if any. It is a powerful mini chopper. And what to grind, you will figure it out, experience, I think, will tell.
Miranda
Quote: Silyavka
Girls, what can you do with this attachment?

This is a mini chopper.
Here's everything that is written about him here, you can do there.

Grind coffee, powdered sugar, herbs, garlic, make a sauce.

Surely, the instructions have a time limit.
In mine - no more than 2 minutes in a row. But usually 1 minute is enough.

***
I hope the chosen model does not disappoint you.
I like the way the whisk turns in Prospero. There are pluses everywhere.

Silyavka
Quote: Miranda
I like the way the whisk turns.
The whisk made me happy, I made mayonnaise, so from one egg the same amount turned out as from two in the mixer. Today I postponed all gardening business and drive the keshka, try everything. While some things are done faster in Vitka, although the power there is only 700 watts, and the cache has 900.




Quote: NatalyaB
experience, I think, will tell
Natalie, you all have more experience than mine, I try it at random.
VolzhankaD
Quote: NatalyaB
Melet, that is, grinds. Every day I have and not once: I really do not like to finely chop the greens
And I tried dill, because I also really don't like chopping greens, and it just crumpled, nothing was cut. I didn't try it again, I decided it was for dry ingredients.
Marinuly
Miranda, Thank you! Like most
VolzhankaD
SilyavkaThe wide lid on top has pictures - gadget, socket and recommended speed. For mini chopper - small round slot, max. speed. I only confused a juicer with a processor there - the drawings are similar.
Silyavka
Girls, what is this disc for? Kenwood kitchen machine: working with attachments




Quote: VolzhankaD
tried dill
Now I tried parsley, I didn't like it either. Something is a mess, but something remains intact.
VolzhankaD
Silyavka, This is a very fine grater, one-sided, recommended for cheese, you can also chocolate




And today I decided to make an American Cole Slow salad, cabbage-carrot with mayonnaise, with radishes. And I prepared the shredder and forgot to flip the disc when I added the carrots and radishes. The result is thin slices in cabbage. What to do, I had to eat like that.
Miranda
Quote: Silyavka
some things are done faster in Vitka, although the power there is only 700 watts, and the cache has 900

Before Kenwood, I had a combine, I kneaded the dough there in 21 seconds, and a maximum of 2-3 minutes. Now I have a long kneading process - mix dry and wet and wait 25 + - minutes, then knead for at least 10 minutes, but more often 15 + -.

Whites or whole eggs are beaten smartly, I have reduced the number of eggs in a number of familiar recipes, because 3 eggs are beaten like a 4 hand mixer. BUT! whips longer than a hand mixer or a Bosch combine. The corolla goes differently. At first it was unusual, but now I don't need a hand mixer, because the time is one, the result is different. Yes, and at this time I am doing something else - weighing and sifting flour, preparing other ingredients. And although it is longer, but in the end, due to the parallelism of processes, I do everything faster.
Quote: VolzhankaD
I didn't try it again, I decided it was for dry ingredients.

Ukropovsky sticks grind perfectly.
And I have not tried one dill, only together with something, for example, garlic + tomato. Everything is ok here.
Quote: VolzhankaD
recommended for cheese, chocolate is also possible

Our people still use it for potato pancakes.

This is a hard disk - chocolate, cheese, ice.
Darkusha
galina_red, but in our m-video there was no big sieve, and no. apparently they are not delivered to us
Tan_ch
Darkusha, Lena, in Moscow it is also only in one store, apparently in one copy.
Can you buy "Kenwood Food Processor Attachment AW20010006", the girls write that it works great on large machines. And in Yekaterinburg you can find it in several stores. In any case, you will have time to return if it does not fit.
Peter Push
Quote: leostrog
As a kneader for bread dough, Kenwood is IMHO pretty average, but brioche dough turns out great.
leostrog, I also disagree with you. Kesha the dough mixer is excellent and, moreover, for different dough. Flour in my use is not only high-quality, but also 1 and c / s, rye c / s and peeled. The result is always pleasing, I mainly bake sourdough bread, but the dough is super on yeast, the dough according to the Panasonic HP recipe comes out much better than in the HP itself. leostrog, and you in hot climates let ice water (cheese, milk) in a batch or at room temperature? If the second, then the result will be almost disastrous.
Quote: Olga VB
I cannot agree with such statements.
I have seen many comparisons of kneaders, and almost everyone admits that Kenwood is best for home use.
True, it was the models of the upper echelons that were compared. Anyway, the induction hook kneads the dough perfectly.
Olga VB, you don't have to go far, you should look at the same topic on page 92, in messages Miranda about the competition for home kneaders. Yes, the hook from the induction CM is good, but the hooks from ordinary Majors and Chefs are kneaded for 5 s +, just the mixing principle is different, not fundamentally better, but fundamentally different, this is my opinion.
MirandaHow do you know how to organize the work in time, well done, but first I sift everything, weigh it and then just add it to the bowl and at the same time practically without blinking I watch how my assistant works, the clinic, probably. Yes, it's time to switch to sourdough, it is not difficult to grow it, if only the work schedule allows. But the leaven is a living domestic creature that requires some attention to itself - the temperature of the content is not lower than +10 (if it is wheat), feeding - once every 2 - 3 days, timely rejuvenation. Bread from the oven is generally good, and even more so with sourdough.

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