shvudkiy
We want to buy a bread maker for my grandmother ... Since this is an elderly person, she will not bake anything other than ordinary bread ... so the main task is ease of use ... But of course quality comes first .... we don't want to take very cheap but the dear one does not need something in between .. In Kiev, the average price for these two models is 750 - 800 UAH ...
Sweat please advise between these two applicants to choose one thing ...
Alim
shvudkiy, you underestimate your grandmother - an elderly person. To embody all her ideas, I advise you to buy a stove with the ability to set the program yourself. Then the grandmother will be happy.
shvudkiy
It is problematic for my grandmother to use a mobile phone. And here and so there will be a bunch of buttons. she should at least remember the basic baking algorithm. Can someone write about the pros and cons of these two models.
Alim
According to the description of the LG HB-202CE, it looks like it lacks a mode bakery products... I did not find a description of the Kenwood BM250 modes ... If Kenwood has this mode, then take it ... It is necessary!
shvudkiy
And what does this mode give?
Alim
This mode (baking) makes it possible to:

1. Use a stove instead of an oven (very important in hot summer)

2. Increase the proofing time of the bread, since the automatic program does not always correspond to the desire of the dough to rise to the required level and get an excellent result.

3. Increase the baking time, as the automatic program ... (see above)
tuskarora
In my opinion, baking is exactly in this model! The abbreviation CE is a muffin - that is, baked goods. But where JE (like mine) is, there is jam. but no cupcake. Also, LV has the abbreviation CJ there and baked goods and jam.
shvudkiy
People who have one of the models tell you how they are, what are the disadvantages ?? ...
on some website I found that the VM-250 is holding a cupcake ... and for that too ...
Faithful
Quote: shvudkiy

People who have one of the models tell you how they are, what are the disadvantages ?? ...
on some website I found that the VM-250 is holding a cupcake ... and for that too ...
Few people get a cake in HP, the temperature is too low. It's somehow more handy in the oven. Jams in a bread maker are also different from those in a store. In addition, if you make jam with sugar, the coating of the bucket suffers.
Midnight lady
shvudkiy
The Kenwood 250 has cupcake, jam and pastry programs. I am very pleased with the bread maker, however, it is my first and there is nothing to compare with. Soon for a year I have been constantly baking bread in my HP and would not want to change it. And the muffins were baked, however, on the "muffin" program, he did not have time to finish baking and had to include an additional "baking" program. I also cooked the jam several times, did not notice the damage to the bucket, however, I usually try to dissolve the sugar before putting it in the bucket.
Good luck in choosing you!
alyona
The muffins are perfectly baked in HP.
But we do not use this mode for muffins, but for baking handmade bread, such as a curl, or if you forcibly turn off the kneading-proofing program, and then bake the bread in the “muffin” mode.
I don't know about the 202, but my 205 is very easy to use - I pressed 2 buttons in sequence and left.
shvudkiy
I started looking for Kenwood, but there’s something about him that isn’t there in the online stores ... there are almost no inscriptions everywhere in the warehouse .... something incomprehensible .. today I’ll call, maybe I’ll meet somewhere ...
vit
Good day! I studied this resource for a long time, as a result I bought Kenwood-350 a couple of weeks ago. My wife and I are absolutely satisfied, but yesterday our friends-neighbors, "infected" by us, bought themselves HP, an LG-Russian cook ...
The price is the same, we ran through the programs, about the same level ...: wow: but it works ABSOLUTELY quietly compared to our tractor (I can't even find another name).Although before that they did not even notice it. So that's it. Although for me this is completely irrelevant, but be prepared.
DonnaRosa
Quote: shvudkiy

It is problematic for grandmother to use a mobile phone. And here and so there will be a bunch of buttons. She should at least remember the basic baking algorithm.
A mobile phone is more complicated than a bread machine.
@ irina @
I have been using my HP LG for 6 years. I am very satisfied, there were no failures. The cupcake is baked perfectly.
shvudkiy
Yesterday I found and ordered a model of vm 256, they said that there is no 250 but they differ only in the case. They promised to bring it today. But then they called back and canceled the order, there was no error in the warehouse. There are no 250 models anywhere. Everywhere they are waiting for the delivery. 256 is more common. I'll try to order today. But they wrote differently that it was noisy. How about the quality of baking?
Danik51
And you in the Rosette store look there is this model.
shvudkiy
Rina72 thanks, but in that store I looked at the site, and called at the moment they have no 250 or 256 models, maybe they will bring it by next week ... but I ordered it in the outlet today ... I hope they won't let you down at least ...) ) as I understood 250 and 256 are different in the case and all or someone knows in more detail?
shvudkiy
Yesterday they brought the BM 256 oven, ... people tell me today we want to bake bread in the recipe for simple white bread, milk powder is indicated .... Can you do without it ?? and what does it give ?? otherwise I did not find it on sale in the neighboring supermarkets ...
Admin
Powdered milk can be replaced with a part of fresh milk, well, at least 1/2 cup, while reducing the amount of water by this amount. And you can do without dry and without any replacement.
And watch the state of the kolobok !!!!!!
Rina
shvudkiy, use the simplest basic recipe (from the same Panasonic), where yeast, wheat flour, water, salt, sugar, butter. Add 1-2 tsp to the water. apple cider vinegar, if available. Believe me, the bread will be just as tasty - this is already your x-lob.
shvudkiy
And so the first bread did not work out .... we set the program to the maximum ... it did not rise, it turned out like two fists of a chezhela bun .. and still not until the end of the baked goods inside ... as we understood, the dough did not rise .. the ingredients loaded everything in sequence and weight as in the book everything is correct, 380 ml of water was needed, since no milk powder was taken, 190 ml of water and 190 ml of 50 ml of milk were taken. first they poured liquid, homemade sunflower oil (ol_yu), flour, sugar, salt, dry yeast ... and everything was BUT MILK, it was cold from the refrigerator, the flour was also cold from the balcony ... Maybe because of that, the dough did not rise. ... now the second has been drained, they have already put milk powder ... and everything is warm, everything looks good, we are waiting for the bread to cool, when we try to unsubscribe .... who will tell you what else could be the mistakes of the first baking?
Summer resident
If everything works out the second time, then the answer is obvious - everything is cold. They are alive yeast and they need a certain temperature to reproduce. The profile does not show what kind of HP you have and it is not clear whether it evens out the temperature or not

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