alkareg
Bread maker Unit UAB-816. Review, comparison, adjustment.

I have been doing home baking for about 8 years. During this time I have used Panasonic SD-253 and Kenwood BM-450 bread makers (ovens with a high rating and price). Panasonic worked with dignity for 5 years, did not even change the bucket (periodically dismantled and cleaned the rotation unit), the coating almost did not wear out, the carbolite hook of the bucket drive broke (was mixing too steep dough), the temperature sensor began to lag. Kenwood has a metal drive. During this period, I bought bread in the store a few times, I bake it daily. As you know, the weak link in these products is the bucket, for the BM-450 the bucket lasts for about one year (for Panasonic this time is longer), then problems begin (the oil seal is worn out, the stopper falls out, a leak appears). Replacing the oil seal with an oil seal made of black rubber (not heat-resistant) does nothing, it quickly fails. It is difficult to get a native oil seal, you can certainly find it on the Internet, but the price is not an oil seal (buy five pieces and change every year). Therefore, it had to be made of fluoroplastic, which has a beneficial effect on the durability of the bucket, since the oil seal begins to act as an additional bearing. Since the coating of the bucket is made on the basis of fluoroplastic, so it is even preferable to rubber (fluoroplastic withstands the temperature conditions of the bread machine without problems, decomposition begins at higher temperatures). The new oil seal has served for more than 1.5 years, there are no complaints yet. The new oil seal was fastened to a pair of stainless steel screws, since the fluoroplastic in the gland seat does not hold well due to insufficient rigidity. It is better to make an oil seal in the form of a hat, that is, under the blade, protect the surface of the bucket so that when the sliding bearings are worn, the blade does not cling to the bucket. In general, it is better not to cook all kinds of jams in bread makers, they are not for this, but it is better to lay the products in this order: yeast, flour, salt and sugar, water, it will last longer. Kenwood's bucket is somehow not very reliable, stamped (thin walls, coating), Panasonic has much better, cast bucket (modern models have an improved coating, diamond-fluoride). This is where the question arose in purchasing an additional, spare bucket. I looked on the Internet, you can buy, but prices ... after the crisis are about 2.5-3 tons. (and this is for one year?). Quite rightly, the question arises, what for this money. it may be possible to purchase a whole bread machine, but a less prestigious brand. And such a bread maker was found without any problems in a well-known online store.
And so: Unit UAB-816, the price is 2336 rubles, cheaper than buckets from the aforementioned bread machines. The manufacturer seems to have established itself, quite well (I have an airfryer from this company, no complaints).

Appearance: resembles a toilet cistern (it has no effect on the quality of bread), Panasonic SD-253 looks a little better. Kenwood BM-450 looks, of course, better than any praise.

Bucket: similar to Kenwood, smaller in size and the spatula cannot be removed (it is difficult to say whether this property is positive or not, it is more difficult to wash, but you do not need to pick it out of the baked roll, and you can not always wash it). Panasonic is the best bucket I've seen.

Control panel: real micro buttons, no film structures like Panasonic. Kenwood has real touch control (micro-buttons, in my opinion, are better, operation from accidental touches is excluded). Unit and Panasonic mode inscriptions are in English, Kenwood has no inscriptions at all (they were on a separate sticker, which deteriorated due to temperature).

Indicator: Where does Panasonic get such indicators? In the 80s of the last century, the first electronic clocks (liquid crystal) began to be made on such. Kenwood has LED, but somehow indistinct. Unit is a normal LED indicator.

Operating modes: all 3 have an approximately standard set. From personal experience: for the first six months you try something special, then you stop at 2x-3x and knead the dough, it gets boring. All 3 do not have rye bread. At Kenwood, you can program your modes, including rye, but the desire for your modes disappeared after I tried to knead the dough according to my program. Forcibly starts baking at the end of the program. Programming is not flexible and limited. The main drawback of Panasonic is that at the beginning of each program there is a stupid mode of equalizing the temperature of the ingredients and it lasts up to 2 hours. Only because of this, I abandoned the Panasonic brand (you cannot turn it off). Imagine, every day an extra two hours, and if the food is at room temperature?

Noisiness: Kenwood has no equal here. Purely a concrete mixer, if you turn it on for the night with a delay in baking, a sleepless night is guaranteed, and the actuation of the dispenser, the Kalashnikov, rests (does not turn off, it hammers every time). Apparently, a particularly noisy gear has been developed so that, being in the next room, they do not forget: you are baking bread. I think this is the main drawback of this bread machine, although it is also too powerful heating at the end of baking (it also does not turn off). Be sure to turn it off, otherwise the crust will be too thick. Panasonic has a toothed belt drive, makes kneading, only a knock of dough, that is, it is very quiet. The Unit has a similar drive, slightly noisier.

Bakery products:
I usually bake bread on the “French” setting. The rule is: I take water 2/3 of the flour weight. For example: flour 450g. - water 300g., Flour 400g. - water 260gr. (Scales are desirable). 1h l. (3-4gr.) Safmoment yeast, 1h. l. salt, 1 tbsp. l. sugar, rast. oil 2 tbsp. l. (if less, then the roll is shaken out badly). We bake bread in the Unit oven. As a result, we get bread: it has not risen enough, the crust is faded, slightly under-baked, but you can eat (I expected something like that). We do not indulge in despondency, but look below:

Setting:
We arm ourselves with a screwdriver, a soldering iron, a Chinese thermometer up to + 300 degrees. By C, internet and patience. We disassemble, the lower case of the case, except for 6 screws, is fixed to the latches in the upper part. Inside is an asynchronous motor driven by a toothed belt. Nothing special, like all stoves. It seems to be well done. Temperature control is carried out using a divider consisting of a thermistor and resistors located on the control board. The voltage from the divider is applied to the leg of the microcontroller (I did not find the datasheet and characteristics on the Internet). Tracked: resistor R14 30k is responsible for raising the dough (heating), resistor R13 2.4k for baking. I picked up the required resistors. As a result: in parallel with resistor R14 I soldered 100 kOhm, in parallel with R13 I soldered 15 kOhm. Thermal fuses have not changed. We collect, bake, bake bread, the bread is wonderful. It is not necessary to disassemble the entire stove to solder the resistors.
To remove the control panel at the top of the case, unscrew one screw, unlatch the latches and remove the control panel.

Conclusion: at a price cheaper than the price of a bucket, we have a new bread maker, with the baking quality no worse than that of the famous brothers. The only Unit does not have a dispenser, but the viewing window is great.

alkareg
Wrote maybe not in the subject, but there is also something about Kenwood. Moderators if necessary - transfer.
kavmins
cool)) I still did not understand - why was there something to re-solder in the stove)))))))))))))))))) The bread is excellent, no complaints. If you are not satisfied with the rise, add more time by pressing size when it beeps after lifting, and if the crust is weak, add time by pressing the button the color of the crust after the final signal 5 minutes before the end of baking ... Business instead of soldering))) )))) Well, you made me laugh with your posting, honestly!
alkareg
This is for those who get a "white brick"
Quote: kavmins
well you made me laugh with your posting
For someone whose bread does not rise completely (the rise temperature is low) may not be funny.The baking temperature is low - you can turn it into a biscuit, but you will not get a normal crust.
And if you have a desire to sit at the bread machine and press the buttons every time - please. It is simply obvious that there is a scatter in the parameters of radioelements (and maybe the thermal contact of a thermistor) and individual specimens differ. "White brick" is not such a rare thing. And if you are all right, then there is nothing to be sad about.
Alex100
He mastered) of course, honor and praise that you can bring an industrial unit to mind)
But I am personally used to buying products that are completely usable, dancing with a tambourine is not for me

If you still have some work on alterations, I will read it with pleasure) You know out-of-the-box thinking, it is always interesting)
kavmins
Well, I don't know ... how many reviews I read about the stove before buying it, no one reported that instead of bread there is a white brick ... maybe the program was installed incorrectly? it is necessary to put on dark and the fried bread comes out and rises perfectly. but if you added time both for raising and for crust, and the stove barely warmed up, then, of course, you need to either make a return or solder
alkareg
Quote: Alex100
dancing with a tambourine is not for me
buy Kenwood for 17 tr. and every year a new bucket, everything will be fine.
Alex100
Quote: alkareg

buy Kenwood for 17 tr. and every year a new bucket, everything will be fine.


Panasonic suits me all, why do I need a collection of stoves)
alkareg
Quote: kavmins
that instead of bread
Quote: kavmins
Well, I don't know ... how many reviews I read about the stove before buying it, no one reported that instead of bread there is a white brick ... maybe the program was installed incorrectly?
if you noticed, then I have been baking bread for 8 years, my oven is not the first, but those that were not cheap, if you have this oven the first, then you just did not see normal bread.
alkareg
Quote: Alex100
Panasonic suits me all
I am not satisfied with moronic vostoyka 2 hours before kneading.
Alex100
Quote: alkareg

I am not satisfied with moronic vostoyka 2 hours before kneading.

in French bread from 40 minutes to 2 hours .... you know, it doesn't bother me)
put the food and forgot) the main thing is the result
alkareg
Quote: Alex100
in French bread from 40 minutes to 2 hours
and this is 6 hours, that is, you can't set it in the evening, you must set it with a timer. Kenwood turns out 3h 40min twice.

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